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Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by DmenshunlAnlsis on Saturday May 12, 2018 @09:49AM (#17054059)
Half of America paid that price to keep slavery though, it’s just that they lost. Then that half invested new ways to screw over the same people for another hundred+ years.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by skookumchuck on Saturday May 12, 2018 @11:13AM (#17054398)
320,000 Northern white men died to free the slaves. 258,000 Southern white men died for being slavers.

It's a pretty high price any way you want to look at it.

Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by tptacek on Saturday May 12, 2018 @01:51PM (#17055175)
The other way to look at it is that hundreds of thousands of Southern white men demanded a blood price of half a million lives to relinquish a right to chattel slavery that most of them could merely aspire to execute --- that such was the depth the depravity undergirding slavery reached.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by skookumchuck on Saturday May 12, 2018 @02:32PM (#17055355)
As I said, the usual price for freedom is blood.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by tptacek on Saturday May 12, 2018 @02:54PM (#17055441)
That's maybe a good song lyric but not especially useful as an argument here.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by skookumchuck on Saturday May 12, 2018 @05:43PM (#17056172)
There are plenty of historical examples. For just American wars, we have the American Revolution, the Civil War, WW2, the Korean War, the Vietnam War.

WW1 is a notable exception.

Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by pvg on Saturday May 12, 2018 @03:45PM (#17055672)
For the values of 'song' that include 'famous speeches by Mussolini/Schrute'.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by tptacek on Saturday May 12, 2018 @04:13PM (#17055799)
I thought that was the wheels of history, not the price of freedom, but point taken!
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by pvg on Saturday May 12, 2018 @04:26PM (#17055856)
I believe it was Marcus Aurelius who wrote 'It is not little details that a man making a dumb joke should fear'.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by chickenfries on Saturday May 12, 2018 @11:37AM (#17054528)
The Union wasn't just executing southerners for being slavers, they were putting down a treasonous rebellion.