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Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by skookumchuck on Saturday May 12, 2018 @05:28AM (#17053213)
The Civil War cost the deaths of 600,000 Americans - 360,000 northern, 258,000 southern. 40,000 of the Union war dead were African Americans. The southern economy was utterly destroyed in the process.

America has already paid a very high and bitter price to end slavery, in the usual currency for freedom - blood.

Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by jrochkind1 on Saturday May 12, 2018 @09:36AM (#17054006)
How much do you know about the Reconstruction period? Where, after a couple decades where Black people could vote and many Southern state legislatures were majority Black, white terrorism (literally, read up on it) returned the Southern Black population to economic dependency, political subjugation, and daily physical insecurity?
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by DmenshunlAnlsis on Saturday May 12, 2018 @09:49AM (#17054059)
Half of America paid that price to keep slavery though, it’s just that they lost. Then that half invested new ways to screw over the same people for another hundred+ years.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by skookumchuck on Saturday May 12, 2018 @11:13AM (#17054398)
320,000 Northern white men died to free the slaves. 258,000 Southern white men died for being slavers.

It's a pretty high price any way you want to look at it.

Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by tptacek on Saturday May 12, 2018 @01:51PM (#17055175)
The other way to look at it is that hundreds of thousands of Southern white men demanded a blood price of half a million lives to relinquish a right to chattel slavery that most of them could merely aspire to execute --- that such was the depth the depravity undergirding slavery reached.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by skookumchuck on Saturday May 12, 2018 @02:32PM (#17055355)
As I said, the usual price for freedom is blood.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by tptacek on Saturday May 12, 2018 @02:54PM (#17055441)
That's maybe a good song lyric but not especially useful as an argument here.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by skookumchuck on Saturday May 12, 2018 @05:43PM (#17056172)
There are plenty of historical examples. For just American wars, we have the American Revolution, the Civil War, WW2, the Korean War, the Vietnam War.

WW1 is a notable exception.

Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by pvg on Saturday May 12, 2018 @03:45PM (#17055672)
For the values of 'song' that include 'famous speeches by Mussolini/Schrute'.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by tptacek on Saturday May 12, 2018 @04:13PM (#17055799)
I thought that was the wheels of history, not the price of freedom, but point taken!
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by pvg on Saturday May 12, 2018 @04:26PM (#17055856)
I believe it was Marcus Aurelius who wrote 'It is not little details that a man making a dumb joke should fear'.
Re:The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s by chickenfries on Saturday May 12, 2018 @11:37AM (#17054528)
The Union wasn't just executing southerners for being slavers, they were putting down a treasonous rebellion.