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Re:Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand by stephenhuey on Thursday May 10, 2018 @11:02AM (#17039445)
I do not understand why a software company who has long made money in the enterprise with Office, SQL Server, etc cannot make an integrated chat program that works well in a corporate environment. This Lync Skype beast is so buggy and it doesn't even have code paste one tenth as decent as what Sametime had a decade ago, and MS makes TOOLS FOR DEVELOPERS! Do they not use Lync/Skype in-house? Dog-folding should make it better right away, unless MS employees just don't collaborate with each other?
Re:Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand by ConceptJunkie on Thursday May 10, 2018 @04:38PM (#17042747)
Several years ago I worked with an ex-Microsofter who'd worked on the NT kernel and SQL Server. There were several times when I asked him why so-and-so was so awful, and his response was always that they didn't have the good people working on it, because they were all working on NT and SQL Server. My response was that as big as Microsoft is, they should have enough good people to go around.

Really, I'm convinced it's not the average engineers in the trenches who make the products so horrible, but management and marketing's influence over management that causes everything to be a trainwreck.

Re:Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand by tzahola on Thursday May 10, 2018 @12:03PM (#17040110)

    Dog-folding
Microsoft Origami Club to the rescue!
Re:Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand by abiox on Thursday May 10, 2018 @12:39PM (#17040483)
i think that at this level, what ultimately matters is that a) "it's Microsoft" and b) can the MS sales person/marketing materials convince some manager to sign off.

business-wise, making things better is only worth pursuing insofar as it helps maintain or advance market position. hopefully they'll see it that way at some point.

Re:Microsoft Turned Consumers Against the Skype Brand by wilde on Thursday May 10, 2018 @11:39AM (#17039850)
They use it internally. It’s equally shitty, but it makes enough money no one cares.