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Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by Animats on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @01:43PM (#17022884)
No, the future is probably genetic engineering for better babies. Retrofitting old models will never work as well.

If you thought race was a problem, wait until we have multiple species of humans. Pfizer people may not interbreed with Novartis people.

Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by davidpelayo on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @02:50PM (#17023617)
Meanwhile, we are still coding throughout the very same interface as 40 years ago: a keyboard.
Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by michaelmrose on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @03:03PM (#17023739)
Because language is the only meaningful model of computation we have made sufficiently versatile to program with?

Do you think we should be drawing spreadsheets or talking to the machine like Scotty... Oh computer!

Nobody who complains about this seems to have a serious idea about a better way to program a computer than a keyboard thus far. If you have anything novel to share I'd be interested.

Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by stcredzero on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @03:23PM (#17023949)
I think we should give some serious thought as to why. I think it has to do with the speed with which we can absolutely specify aggregations and connections from among a large number of choices. We simply haven't come up with an interface that beats a keyboard, text displays, and programming languages, combined with the programmer's brain.
Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by magduf on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @02:54PM (#17023649)
Unfortunately, the keyboards we had 30-40 years ago were far superior to almost all the ones we have today. They've been getting steadily worse and worse, and have reached a new low now with the ultra-thin-key, ultra-low-travel, flat-top "island" keyboards that laptops all have today.
Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by stcredzero on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @03:19PM (#17023905)
How many of those laptops are actually targeted at coders?
Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by magduf on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @04:37PM (#17024788)
I wouldn't say they're "targeted at coders", but Macbooks seem to be very popular with them these days.

In fact, I don't exactly see coders being very discriminating on keyboard quality overall. The main people who seem to care a lot about keyboards (and who keep the high-end mechanical keyboard makers in business) are gamers, not coders.

Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by stcredzero on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @04:46PM (#17024881)
I wouldn't say they're "targeted at coders", but Macbooks seem to be very popular with them these days.

Seemingly less and less so as time goes on.

In fact, I don't exactly see coders being very discriminating on keyboard quality overall.

There's a reason why some coders are Thinkpad fans. You don't have to be very discriminating for coding, but a modicum of ergonomics does make a difference.

The main people who seem to care a lot about keyboards (and who keep the high-end mechanical keyboard makers in business) are gamers, not coders.

Interesting idea. I wonder what the percentages are of clicky keyboards versus switches like Cherry blacks?

Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by magduf on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @04:54PM (#17024979)
>There's a reason why some coders are Thinkpad fans.

Some != majority. Sure, I've seen some who are Thinkpad fans (or, like me, Dell Latitude fans). But they're a minority. I'm sure I've seen more that were Apple fans, even the ones doing Linux coding.

Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by kensai on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @03:30AM (#17028013)
And that's probably about to change! :D Please take a look what CTRL-labs are doing.

Keynote at O'Reilly: https://wp.me/P9TsXm-53

Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by RightMillennial on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @02:03PM (#17023101)
See the movie Gattaca. It doesn't deal with different species, but is has "valid" (genetically improved humans) and "invalid" (normal humans).
Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by jacquesm on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @01:50PM (#17022953)
That's 'The Space Merchants' taken to an extreme.
Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by JDTAY87 on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @02:06PM (#17023128)
I'm actually pretty enthusiastic about genetically engineering humans, as the human genome has been breaking down over time, presumably due to our modern protection from evolutionary feedback and our preference to wait longer in our life cycle than other creatures to reproduce.
Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by michaelmrose on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @03:14PM (#17023852)
The human species hasn't changed much from the time where we carved word into clay tablets to the time where we type responses into web forums.

What you are discussing is the common dillusion that society or civilization has declined from some bygone era. Socrates despaired of the declining morals of youth compared to their forefathers thousands of years ago and you lament an imaginary decline in the integrity of our genes.

Back in reality selection in a species that takes 20-30 years to reproduce is really really slow and civilizations allowing the genetically weak to survive and gasp even breed hasn't done much to change us as a species in the last few hundred years.

What you are expressing is mostly seen in the lies of nazis and rascists who desire to promote the right kind of people breeding. If you will do more research you will discover that it lacks any scientific basis.

Re:No death and an enhanced life: Is the future transhuman? by SwellJoe on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @02:45PM (#17023570)
On what do you base the assertion that "the human genome has been breaking down over time"?