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Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by cwkoss on Friday April 27, 2018 @02:01PM (#16942828)
Interesting.

Joy Ann Reid is recently in hot water for lying about hackers inserting homophobic blog posts in to the archive.org record of her old blog. She has now requested that archive.org stop serving archives of this blog.

I wonder how frequently mainstream media scrubs old version of stories from archive sites.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/claims-by-joy-reids-cybersecur...

Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by walshemj on Saturday April 28, 2018 @09:18AM (#16947506)
Its common for political parties in the UK to delete old content / speeches.
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by labster on Friday April 27, 2018 @02:17PM (#16942948)
Mainstream media gets attacked for not doing enough fact checking, but also gets attacked for removing incorrect stories. I guess there's no way to win.
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by djrogers on Friday April 27, 2018 @02:36PM (#16943127)
Removing stories completely is akin to hiding the fact taht you failed in your journalistic responsibilities. It would be better for the integrity of the journalist if the story remained available with the details of the failure plastered above/below etc.

Don't erase your mistakes - own up to them.

Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by emodendroket on Friday April 27, 2018 @03:08PM (#16943401)
If your story unfairly libels someone, particularly a private individual, that presents its own ethical challenges, doesn't it?
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by mcherm on Friday April 27, 2018 @04:00PM (#16943824)
Not at all. One could do as NPR has done in this case: Remove the original story and replace it with a statement of why it has been retracted. Nothing is hidden, and the incorrect story is removed.
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by emodendroket on Saturday April 28, 2018 @10:25AM (#16947768)
I guess my concern is someone looking you up and the results being dominated by results like "Joe Smith, 55, of 22 East Wessex St, caught stealing from orphans" being a problem, even if clicking through shows a correction rather than the original story.
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by snupples on Saturday April 28, 2018 @01:53PM (#16948747)
It is owning up to the mistake - hence the published retraction.
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by cwkoss on Friday April 27, 2018 @02:22PM (#16942997)
Being an authority on truth is a challenging role that requires caution and responsibility.

Doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater, but we should hold journalists to a high standard - journalistic standards have weakened in the past decade with the rise of clickbait and promoting partisan editorials as news.

Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by davvolun on Friday April 27, 2018 @03:32PM (#16943613)
Agreed, but journalism and journalists are meanwhile being facetiously attacked as "#FakeNews". And I don't think we should hold journalists up to a higher standard than elected officials; or, to be accurate, I don't think we should allow either journalists or elected officials a low moral and ethical standard.
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by jpttsn on Friday April 27, 2018 @02:34PM (#16943112)
Get it right the first time.

If you can’t, don’t pretend to.

Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by labster on Friday April 27, 2018 @03:25PM (#16943574)
Especially with software, right everyone?
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by davvolun on Friday April 27, 2018 @03:33PM (#16943626)
Even the atom bomb was tested at least once.
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by mulmen on Friday April 27, 2018 @05:17PM (#16944404)
But not in production.
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by tzs on Friday April 27, 2018 @07:09PM (#16945138)
The first two atomic bombs in production were considerably different designs from each other, and there was only one test explosion before those two, so doesn't that mean that at least one bomb was in fact tested in production?
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by Larrikin on Friday April 27, 2018 @05:43PM (#16944622)
No bugs ever made it to production.
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by dingo_bat on Friday April 27, 2018 @02:19PM (#16942967)
There is a very easy way to win. Do not censor stuff. Own up to your mistakes and failings. Be responsible for what you publish. Maybe that is a foreign concept to modern "journalists".
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by pavlov on Friday April 27, 2018 @02:40PM (#16943158)
What do you want NPR to do in this case? You may think they deserve mocking scare quotes around their profession, but these are real journalists trying to fix a mistake following industry guidelines.
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by TangoTrotFox on Friday April 27, 2018 @02:48PM (#16943228)
Here [1] are NPR's own published guidelines on why they will supposedly not remove stories:

>"We are guided by a newsroom policy that says it is inappropriate to remove content from our Website. If a report is inaccurate, we will correct it and state why it has been altered. If relevant new information emerges, we will update or do a follow-up story. But our content is a matter of public record and is part of our contract with our audience. To simply remove it from the archive diminishes transparency and trust and, in effect, erases history. This is not a practice engaged in by credible news organizations or in line with ethical journalism."

[1] - http://ethics.npr.org/memos-from-memmott/how-to-explain-why-...

Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by cwkoss on Friday April 27, 2018 @02:50PM (#16943248)
Wow good catch, you may want to share this as a top-level comment.
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by TangoTrotFox on Friday April 27, 2018 @02:51PM (#16943259)
Found it from another comment (that is top-level): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16943135 Quite damning!
Re:NPR Retracts Story 'The Man Who Spent $100K To Remove A L... by salvar on Friday April 27, 2018 @03:43PM (#16943700)
Yes, I'm sure modern journalists are all wrong and you're right.