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Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by komali2 on Friday April 06, 2018 @06:48PM (#16778164)
>I have also accepted that I will die one day

How? I'm only 27 but every time I try to tackle this problem raw panic prevents any reasonable thinking.

I've instead adopted a "when it happens I won't know" mindset and continue to work towards extracting maximum enjoyment from life.

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by MrLeap on Friday April 06, 2018 @07:11PM (#16778289)
I'm 29 and comfortable with the thought of dying. Not looking forward to it, but not frightened either. The "how" is just like anything else, practice. Since you can only die once, you have to rely on the deaths of others you care about to help you over your fear.

When I was in third grade, one of my brothers was murdered. I felt all the panic of mortality, and intense, visceral grief -- etc that you might imagine. A few years after that, a cousin was stabbed to death. I didn't know him much, and I figured that was the reason why his funeral felt much easier.

My grandmother died in 2007, she was the sweetest lady you'd ever meet. It was even "easier" than the cousin's funeral.

In 2009, an uncle died. In 2010, an aunt. Another aunt died in 2013.

Another one of my brothers always used to say that he never wanted a funeral. When he died October 2016, some family threw him a funeral anyways. I felt like I was doing his memory a solid by not going. At an earlier stage in my life, when I was more self important -- I would have been livid at the family who threw a funeral for someone who didn't want one in life. Now I know stuff like that just doesn't matter.

The pain of losing a loved one has changed from an acute stabbing sensation in my kidneys to somber waves that roll over me, then recede. Getting better at coping with the deaths of those you love helps you come to terms with your own mortality.

Basically, don't worry about it.

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by cynwoody on Saturday April 07, 2018 @04:28AM (#16779924)
>Basically, don't worry about it.

Mark Twain said, “Annihilation has no terrors for me, because I have already tried it before I was born — a hundred million years — and I have suffered more in an hour, in this life, than I remember to have suffered in the whole hundred million years put together.”

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by racer-v on Friday April 06, 2018 @10:43PM (#16779115)
Yeah, experiencing a lot of "little deaths" makes it easier. These can be the death of a relative, a near-death experience, or a serious trauma that means you will never realize your previous dreams (e.g. a football player losing his legs). Your ego starts to dissolve, and you become less caught up in your ambitions. You accept that what feels like unending potential does in fact end.
Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by lsaferite on Monday April 09, 2018 @08:27AM (#16792369)
To add a little levity to a serious discussion, "little deaths" in French are quite a different subject. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_petite_mort

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by Aloha on Saturday April 07, 2018 @01:02AM (#16779447)
> Now I know stuff like that just doesn't matter.

When we're young, we're preoccupied with if something is right, or wrong - but there is a third answer to this question; "it doesn't matter"

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by andromedaworld on Saturday April 07, 2018 @04:05AM (#16779875)
Seems like you're preaching nihilism and that kind of emptiness doesn't seem like any way to live life for me.
Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by stevedonovan on Saturday April 07, 2018 @04:57AM (#16779986)
It matters for the big things, but not for "stupid bullshit" as my dear wife calls it. Obviously there are things where principles and correctness are important; but what are they? It seems that we should prune the set of important things down to the minimum needed, so that we are not paralyzed by unimportance.
Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by Aloha on Tuesday April 10, 2018 @06:21AM (#16800288)
This is the key here, and really the point I was trying to make.
Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by Clubber on Friday April 06, 2018 @07:44PM (#16778483)
You might once it starts becoming more statistically probable.
Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by MrLeap on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:30PM (#16778689)
Probably not. I rolled my truck a few years ago, and my numbness persisted even while windshields were shattering and up became down, then up and then down over and over again. I wondered if I was going to die, and just surrendered myself to physics.

If I ever fall feet first into a wood-chipper, I'll probably panic and try to find a way out. The instinct to survive is still there. The existential dread is just gone.

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by Clubber on Saturday April 07, 2018 @01:02PM (#16781578)
Yes, well those are statistical anomalies. Once you get to a point where in a perfect scenario, you may only have 40 years at best, or 25 years normally, that weighs on your mind and actions. Not to mention, those last 20 years aren't nearly as good from a health/pains perspective as the first or middle 20. "Probable" that I used isn't a good word, more like "inevitable."

When you get a certain age, you know you will be dead in the time it took you to be born and graduate from college. Your window is rapidly closing. What are you going to do with the last 20-40 years? You might not be able to do much because you are stuck working, making someone else rich. You may very well be bound to that job because of health care costs.

When you are young, you may realize this will eventually happen, but you won't really understand it until you are in that situation. It's some heavy shit. People thinking about this sort of thing is probably why humans invented religion and spirituality.

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by maxxxxx on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:22PM (#16778655)
From my own experience and what I have observed in others people start worrying less about death once they know it's getting closer.
Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by state_less on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:43PM (#16778754)
UNDER the wide and starry sky

  Dig the grave and let me lie:
Glad did I live and gladly die,

  And I laid me down with a will.
- Robert Louis Stevenson. 1850–1894
Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by md224 on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:49PM (#16778773)
The great thing about death is that you won’t experience it. You’ve never experienced non-existence before and you never will. Being dead is just not something you’ll ever have to deal with.

This won’t be a popular view here, but lately I’ve begun to think that consciousness isn’t the kind of thing that can end. I used to think death was just inconceivable, but now I wonder if it’s fundamentally incoherent. I think one could make a phenomenological argument for the immortality of the pure self/ego (Husserl said some interesting things about this), but I won’t get into that here.

Either way, don’t worry about things you will never experience. :)

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by bradknowles on Saturday April 07, 2018 @11:26PM (#16784454)
With respect, I disagree.

You won’t experience what happens after you die, but you will certainly experience the process of dying.

Being dead doesn’t scare me. But the concept of the process of dying scares the crap out of me.

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by trophycase on Saturday April 07, 2018 @12:54AM (#16779432)
Yes. You can't "be" dead, because to be dead means not to be.

If to "be" is to be conscious, then you can't "be" unconscious.

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by titzer on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:07PM (#16778580)
How about the following:

When you die, there is nothing afterwards. We keep picturing this dark void, or ourselves floating in outer space, watching longingly as the world keeps going without us. We wonder what people will think of us. We wonder if it was worth it. We worry if we'll feel regret.

None of that happens--at least for some people. You can think of it like you just go to sleep, but no dreams. Just pure nothingness, and no sense of time, not sense of anything. You can imbdue this moment with terror if you want, but you can just as easily think of it as peace, final, eternal, lasting peace. Release from the struggle of book reports, bills, shouting matches, the constant biological drives, unsatisfactory lunch meat, the whole mofo.

Now, you can build it up to whatever you want. You can just as easily build it up to a moment of eternal terror when you regret the entire past and the lack of a future, and live forever in your worst moments being amplified and stretched to fill the universe.

There's actually no way of knowing which it is. But you get to choose how you think about it during your life. A life filled with dread and fear of this last moment is going to be sour, whereas a life filled with a slightly curious trust that everything will be fine will be much more enjoyable.

Death is such an intrinsic part of life that it makes no sense that it'd be a horror. It'd be a cosmic joke on all of us if it were. Knowing one person that has died well--old, without regrets, satisfied with loved ones, and not in pain is an existence proof that it doesn't have to be this way.

Personally I want to try to live one of those lives that ends in peace and without regretting or hating at the end, just a lot of nice memories coming back as my brain winds down and releases one monster rush of endorphins.

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by ams6110 on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:39PM (#16778731)
There's something appealing about the idea that one's soul, or life force, takes some other form after death. Or that your life force is reincarnated, but with no memory of its prior life. I don't know how that would happen or if it's true, but the other thing I think is that the experience after your life ends, is the same as before you were born.

I don't really fear death. I'd rather my death not be painful, but I'll take what comes. It's part of the experience of living.

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by 8bitsrule on Saturday April 07, 2018 @12:16AM (#16779336)
If, as the scientists say, space and time are one, we will certainly never be gone from spacetime. (' 'The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line ...')

As for what exists once the body is gone ... one planet at a time!

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by billforsternz on Saturday April 07, 2018 @02:22AM (#16779635)
Nice piece, amused you somehow conspired to get "unsatisfactory lunch meat" into such a deep and meaningful thought sequence.
Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by girvo on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:54PM (#16778798)
I want to go out like Huxley. Endorphins and LSD...
Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by point78 on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:29PM (#16778684)
That's even sadder....
Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by maxxxxx on Friday April 06, 2018 @07:32PM (#16778425)
"How? I'm only 27 but every time I try to tackle this problem raw panic prevents any reasonable thinking."

I think it comes pretty naturally. At some point you realize that your body has seen its best days and goes downhill. I used to do a lot of sport and it took me a while in my 40s to get used to the thought that I simply can't do things anymore like in my 20s. Now I try to maintain what I have but I know I can only slow down the decline. And this is OK.

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by cryoshon on Friday April 06, 2018 @08:06PM (#16778577)
welp

if you're scared of death (and honestly i can't say that i ever have been to the point where i couldn't think deeply about it) just think of things in this objectively correct way: you've already been dead for the majority of the history of the universe, and it really wasn't so bad.

tell me, what was your life like in the year 14?

you have no recollection of it, obviously. it was oblivion; the idea of you did not even exist yet. you felt nothing. it's exactly the same situation as your life in the year 2952.

you already know how it feels. it is, in fact, the sensation that you have "experienced" infinitely more than any other. life tricks us into thinking that its sensations are the only thing, and it's nice to play along. but eventually you'll return to the peace of the familiar.

PS: while i haven't had the chance to dabble, i hear that many people find taking magic mushrooms and experiencing ego death is a good way to shed your fear.

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by barry-cotter on Saturday April 07, 2018 @01:23AM (#16779500)
Shit happens. One day you’ll be dead. Your grandparents will die if they haven’t yet, your parents too. Maybe you will love to see your siblings die, almost certainly your friends. If you don’t see your love die, they’ll see it happen to you, or you’ll never have one. Even if humanity beats aging before old age gets us and we have beautiful young healthy bodies some day there’ll be a freak accident and a car will drop on you and you’ll be dead because your brain will be all over the place. One day the last star will go out. Entropy wins in the end.

Deyr fé, deyja frændur, deyr sjálfur ið sama; en orðstír deyr aldregi hveim er sér góðan getur."

Cattle die, kinsmen die you yourself die; One thing now that never dies the fame of a dead man’s deeds.

Re:Want to Be Happy? Think Like an Old Person (2017) by srtjstjsj on Saturday April 07, 2018 @03:02AM (#16779723)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism

Eventually you get used to the thought and it stops being scary.

Being busy helps, so you don't have time to think about it.

And have faith that (natural) death is a slippery slope --as you age you'll lose the mental faculties to fear death, and you're physical pain will increase until you welcome death or morphine. Since you won't fear it then, there's no need to fear it now. Just go enjoy.