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Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by losteric on Friday April 06, 2018 @04:54PM (#16777337)
Counter solution: Outlaw publishing suspect names until after they are convicted.

This model is used by other nations because regulating publications prevents both short and long-term harm while still preserving access to the truth.

Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by astura on Friday April 06, 2018 @07:21PM (#16778364)
Seems like a very dangerous road to go down.

My parents abused me, however, they were never convicted of a crime in a court of law because nobody ever reported them. The statue of limitations has almost certainly passed by now so they are unable to be convicted. Are you suggesting it should be illegal for me to say that my parents abused me?

Same with Bill Cosby's accusers, the statue of limitations has passed on all of those. Should those women really not be legally allowed to have their voices heard?

I can't see this leading anywhere except an authoritarian regeme where court proceedings are conducted in secret - after all, the suspect is being publicly accused on crime in court.

Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by nradov on Friday April 06, 2018 @09:53PM (#16778984)
I think losteric was proposing a confidentiality rule that would only apply to the government, not to private citizens.
Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by itronitron on Saturday April 07, 2018 @12:43AM (#16779401)
and government employees never reveal high-interest confidential information /s
Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by shakna on Friday April 06, 2018 @05:03PM (#16777420)
And what happens when the false conviction is overturned?
Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by gray_-_wolf on Friday April 06, 2018 @05:44PM (#16777733)
In that case make it required by law to publish apology following same format as was the original article. Did you print the false claim on title page of newspaper? Same place, same size for and apology. Same with web articles. That should at least make it searchable by engines.
Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by shakna on Friday April 06, 2018 @05:59PM (#16777835)
That information has already been dissiminated. And usually has a higher hit-rate than any correction.

We know employers can and have discriminated against individuals where convictions have been overturned.

Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by losteric on Friday April 06, 2018 @07:08PM (#16778281)
Relevancy is a problem that firmly falls under Google's responsibility... and businesses must be punished for discriminating over incomplete background checks.

However, I don't think the false conviction should be hidden - what if they were guilty and there's a crimes down the road? That information could be useful for the public.

Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by astura on Friday April 06, 2018 @07:39PM (#16778466)
Saying "X was convicted of Y" is not a "false claim," when X really was convicted of Y. If X's conviction is later overturned, that's additional information, but it doesn't make the original information false.

Nobody owes anyone an apology.

Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by tannhauser23 on Friday April 06, 2018 @05:48PM (#16777769)
This is not a universally adopted solution, and for good reason. Publishing the suspect's name/face as well as the details of the alleged crime encourages witnesses to come forward. Plus, from a free speech perspective, it seems crazy to criminalize the publishing of true information, especially when it directly relates to public safety and the government's exercise of its police powers.
Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by mjevans on Friday April 06, 2018 @06:47PM (#16778157)
Saying investigators are interested in the details surrounding individuals at the time of a crime (and presenting those individuals, not even as suspects, but merely as 'persons for which additional information is desired') is a truthful and accurate statement and does not assert any actual accusation of guilt. As such a fact it should be part of the public record regarding such a matter.
Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by petre on Saturday April 07, 2018 @02:30AM (#16779652)
Society will treat you as a convicted criminal even if you're a suspect.
Re:Google seeks to limit ‘right to be forgotten’ by claiming... by losteric on Friday April 06, 2018 @07:04PM (#16778255)
Publishing names and faces as established criminals is inherently contradictory with an impartial jury of your peers.

Faces, I can see that but journalists must be very explicit... "This is the suspect who allegedly did xyz".