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Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by tlarkworthy on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @02:49PM (#16757698)
I think a machine vision directed spray is the future. I don't fancy collecting the training data though.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by lbenes on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:01PM (#16759036)
LOL, "a machine vision directed spray", missing a '/s'? My toilet has a built in bidet. When the spray comes on, I move my butt to positions the stream to dead center. There's really no need for any added complexity.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by Freak_NL on Thursday April 05, 2018 @04:27AM (#16762947)
Toilets seats with built in bidets have already been perfected in Japan and South Korea since the nineties. Anyone who suggests the need for computer vision aided complexity has never used one of these. They just work, and you learn to use them properly really fast.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by moccachino on Thursday April 05, 2018 @04:39AM (#16763010)
They just want to gather the footage for research
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by Al-Khwarizmi on Thursday April 05, 2018 @09:27AM (#16764672)
I only used one in Korea once, and to be honest, it worked so well without doing anything special that I assumed they were already using some kind of recognition.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by lbenes on Thursday April 05, 2018 @12:41PM (#16766481)
And those toilets have been readily available in the US for over a decade. I did opt for a higher end model, but it wasn't hard to find either.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by tlarkworthy on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @08:22PM (#16760628)
It's knowing when it's done
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by carlmr on Thursday April 05, 2018 @03:20AM (#16762622)
I can already see the news reports about racist toilets.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by jlebrech on Thursday April 05, 2018 @04:27AM (#16762946)
over-engineering much
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by jackaroe78 on Thursday April 05, 2018 @04:37AM (#16763000)
Better safe than sorry
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by 3pt14159 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:47PM (#16758891)
Please no. I don't want asshole recognition software tracking my movements from washroom to washroom.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by opportune on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:05PM (#16759086)
But the potential for offering targeted hemorrhoid treatment advertising could heavily subsidize the cost of the Amazon Toilet
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by cbm-vic-20 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:53PM (#16759565)
Two answers to this one

1) iPhone X already has this feature.

2) GDPR will require you to opt-in to asshole tracking, and you'll also have the right to request your asshole scans be forgotten.

Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by calebegg on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:57PM (#16759604)
Surprisingly relevant Adult Swim Infomercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by scribu on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @08:04PM (#16760534)
A sewer pipe that could detect what’s passing through it would actually have all kinds of practical uses!

I wonder how feasible it would be to embed chemical sensors into such an environment.

Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by toomanybeersies on Thursday April 05, 2018 @01:55AM (#16762187)
Governments sometimes analyse waste water for drugs and drug metabolites. You can't pinpoint specific houses' drug use, but you get get trends and general population data.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by krtkush on Thursday April 05, 2018 @03:51AM (#16762779)
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by pbhjpbhj on Thursday April 05, 2018 @06:46AM (#16763577)
Targeting action on drugs by monitoring sewerage plants is some sort of genius.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by oh_sigh on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @06:43PM (#16759995)
Are you suggesting that each human has a unique anus-print? Or is this just some shitty theory of yours?
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by komali2 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @08:29PM (#16760674)
Each human actually does have a unique anus print and I'm pretty sure it was pornhub that figured this out. If I find the article I'll edit.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by rnet85 on Thursday April 05, 2018 @02:40AM (#16762397)
and the data can be stolen by an analytics company which may use it to manipulate elections.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by fleetingmoments on Wednesday April 11, 2018 @10:56AM (#16811658)
How else would we elect the biggest asshole?
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by xHopen on Thursday April 05, 2018 @03:33AM (#16762694)
Once I had a very serious conversation about this, bussiness conversation
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by Baeocystin on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:09PM (#16758519)
No need to go that far. Even the $300 unit I purchased off of Amazon is, uh, remarkably accurate.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by throwaway84742 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @08:51PM (#16760806)
And of course it will be sending the data to the cloud, to improve ad targeting.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by friedman23 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:43PM (#16758861)
Or you can just use wet wipes
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by maccam94 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:04PM (#16759072)
Beware, many of those "flushable" wipes aren't actually: https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/putrid-130-ton-mass-...
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by freedomben on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:17PM (#16759201)
Especially for septic systems. In related news, it is very expensive to have a plumber come fish "flushable" wipes from your septic system when they are blocking the tank and backing the "water" back up into the house.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by travmatt on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @11:58PM (#16761640)
I asked a plumber about those once and he laughed and said there’s no such thing as a flushable wipe - but they’re great for business.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by 4ad on Thursday April 05, 2018 @03:59AM (#16762817)
What's the limitation? Why can't we make actually flushable wipes?
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by dotancohen on Thursday April 05, 2018 @06:20AM (#16763464)
Shear stress. You want something that won't tear when it is pulled against your skin, but with enough friction to remove viscoplastic residue.

The way to make a cloth that supports such high shear stress without tearing is to use a very long fiber. This precludes the fiber from dissolving in water. Some experimental materials actually dissolve not in water but in alkalines such as fats that are found in most sewer systems. But not all sewer systems have the proper conditions so these materials then do not dissolve.

Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by tziki on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:26PM (#16758051)
Doubt it would take off, considering the low adoption rates of "regular" spray toilets in the west. It's a relatively marginal improvement after all.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by Baeocystin on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:13PM (#16758563)
Bidet use is accelerating rapidly* in the US. Which doesn't surprise me, really. When I got one, most of my family was surprised. As they tried it out of curiosity, most of them were really happy with how clean they felt, and have gone on to get one for their own homes. I'm sure they have other friends that come over and will experience the same. It's an exponential effect.

(* source: https://www.proremodeler.com/bidets-finally-making-inroads-u... )

Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by donw on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @07:20PM (#16760265)
If I have taken only one thing away from living in Japan for near-on a decade, it is that the washlet (aka the cyber-bidet) is, quite possibly, mankind's greatest invention.

The predecessor to the above were small squeeze bottles full of water, and you can still buy various versions of these today, which are heaven-on-earth as a wilderness backpacker.

I picked up a travel bidet[1] for backpacking, and it has proven to be one of the best uses of six bucks that I can remember. Weighs in at 50g (~2oz), and not only cuts down on the amount of TP I need to pack in (and out), but it's also been a general lifesaver when traveling.

[1] https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B007ZLB3NA

Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by komali2 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @08:30PM (#16760684)
Hooooly shit I never thought of this for backpacking.

You're a life saver. Accidentally pulling out my shit wipe Ziploc is my least favorite part of backpacking.

Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by donw on Thursday April 05, 2018 @08:01AM (#16763959)
Yeah, it's pretty hard to differentiate that from an MRE.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by chrischen on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @07:38PM (#16760368)
There are non-electronic bidets that I found worked just as well (you rotated a nob to spray water using just water pressure).
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by ducatdusk on Thursday April 05, 2018 @11:05AM (#16765545)
I installed one of these at home. Absolutely superb.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by Baeocystin on Thursday April 05, 2018 @10:32PM (#16770490)
That sounds like a rather... brisk experience in the colder months. I hope you live where the winters are mild!
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by paganel on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:43PM (#16759463)
Washing one's "back-parts" after they've completed their job feels much more clean to me compared to using toilet paper. Whenever I'm forced to use TP (i.e. when not at home, mostly) I always feel a little dirty after the deed, no matter how much TP I use. I don't have that feeling when using water to clean said back-parts.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by manav on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:04PM (#16759065)
Cost of bidets are coming down a lot with more domestic manufacturers. At $200-300 for a Toto-like attachment I upgraded all of my toilets. It's hard to go back once you are used to it.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by cabinguy on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @07:23PM (#16760280)
I agree 100%. I purchased bidets as Christmas presents for many family members this past year after a visit to South Korea (where they were the norm in the hotels I visited). I've even found myself telling my neighbors about the advantages of bidets over cocktails (which is kind of weird). I wouldn't want to live without one, and I spread the word.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by skygazer on Thursday April 05, 2018 @03:38AM (#16762724)
And what are the advantages of a bidet over a cocktail? Not as sticky, I imagine.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by freedomben on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @05:18PM (#16759209)
Yes. I recently went to Azerbaijan and was amazing at how barbaric we are in the USA with our hard, dry toilet paper :-)
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by ars on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @08:38PM (#16760734)
You don't need to pay so much, you can get some that attach under the seat for $30.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by jeffreyrogers on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:57PM (#16758987)
Far easier is just to have the person move into the proper position.
Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by make3 on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:42PM (#16758236)
wow, collecting isn't so bad, (you just place a camera) Labeling it however!!

That would mean literally looking at poopy buttholes all day long and highlighting the poop on the butt, maybe also highlighting where you think the hose should start. I wouldn't want to be that Mechanical Turker

Re:What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper? by kragen on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:51PM (#16758352)
There's someone out there for whom this is their dream job. Probably a substantial fraction of the population, actually, judging from the tag clouds on porn sites.