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Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by userbinator on Friday March 30, 2018 @08:00PM (#16720799)
Perhaps this is a bit off-topic, but I correctly guessed from the domain name and later, the contents of the page, that [1] the author is Russian, and [2] the file manager resembles the layout of FAR, another file manager of Russian origin and seemingly very popular among them.

In short, what is it with Russians and this type of file manager? It's a very curious association.

Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by dchest on Saturday March 31, 2018 @03:29AM (#16722228)
Norton Commander (and its clones, such as Volkov Commander, DOS Navigator) was very popular in ex-USSR — almost every computer running DOS (the majority of PCs in ex-USSR back then) had nc running as the main user interface to the PC, and was introduced in most computer education courses in the 90's.
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by badsectoracula on Saturday March 31, 2018 @10:57AM (#16723547)
I always found it amusing that in Chasm: The Rift (a midlate-90s FPS for DOS made by Action Forms, a Ukrainian game developer), the computer monitors had Norton Commander running:

https://i.imgur.com/63dPueK.png

Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by noir_lord on Saturday March 31, 2018 @04:00AM (#16722299)
For me it was Xtree, that was my favorite file manager ever.
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by abcd_f on Saturday March 31, 2018 @05:32AM (#16722542)
In fact NC was so ubiquitous that it had jokes about it printed in computer magazines and circulating on the Fido network.
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by gedy on Friday March 30, 2018 @10:21PM (#16721299)
In general what is it that people love about dual pane file managers? I love alternate UIs but I've never understood this one.
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by kiaulen on Friday March 30, 2018 @11:02PM (#16721441)
If you only use a file manager for browsing/opening files, a single window makes sense. But as soon as you want to do a copy/cut and paste, you end up having to browse back and forth between two directories anyway. Dual pane is optimized for that workflow.
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by tesseract on Friday March 30, 2018 @11:42PM (#16721587)
The canonical 80s/90s Mac OS answer would be, just open 2 (or 3 or 4 or n) file browser windows next to each other. Arguably the workflow of moving/copying stuff between windows was a key motivator for the creation of windowing systems in the first place. But today that multi-window workflow, while of course still possible, somehow feels less salient... the DOS/MDI-era Windows UI norm of "one window ≈ one application" seems to have taken over culturally as a baseline expectation for how GUIs should work - perhaps reinforced by non-windowed smartphone OSes these days as well.
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by userbinator on Saturday March 31, 2018 @12:00AM (#16721647)
I'm mainly a Windows user and I regularly have a dozen or more explorer windows open, all showing directories of interest to my current work. From that perspective, using a file manager with only two effective "windows" feels more constraining.
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by jalk on Saturday March 31, 2018 @06:23AM (#16722683)
Two pane FM's are optimized for mouseless operation which your workflow is not. I.e ctrl-c alt-tab ctrl-v compared to just F5 for copying files
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by TheSpiceIsLife on Saturday March 31, 2018 @06:58AM (#16722776)
Have you tried Q-Dir? I installed it on my work PC using Chocolatey. I've found a couple instances of Q-Dir superior to a bunch of Windows Explorer windows for most of the things I do on a Windows PC.
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by ssijak on Saturday March 31, 2018 @12:57AM (#16721796)
there are tabs/windows in dual pane file managers
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by mmozeiko on Saturday March 31, 2018 @01:24AM (#16721897)
I pretty much write, compile & run a large chunk of my C, C++, Python and other code in FAR every day.

I use it because I can do so many things in FAR so much faster than any other alternative (or my colleagues). I can view/navigate file/folder structure. View/Edit/Copy/Move/Archive files. And search recursively. Either by file name/extension or in contents. Also run command-line stuff (make, python, git). Inspect output from commands, quickly select text - copy&paste between contents of file, command-line and output of command. And much more. All that with just a few of keyboard shortcuts. No mouse.

And when I'm showing/explaining something to my colleague, I often hear "wait, what just happened?" or "how did you do that so fast?"

// not russian, but using FAR every day (started with Norton Commander, then used Volkov Commander, then Dos Navigator for a long time)

Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by rjzzleep on Friday March 30, 2018 @08:23PM (#16720908)
FAR is fascinating. It may look like a Norton Commander, but it's fully integrated in Windows and the extension system goes beyond most Norton Commander clones. It may be a small thing since the API in windows is fairly simple, but what got me is the fact that you double click an item and you get a copy of windows explorers right click + FAR extensions.

But yes, I agree I've asked myself the same question.

Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by pashky on Friday March 30, 2018 @08:48PM (#16720985)
Would you imagine that instead of browsing records in a shop or even listening to radio all you and your friends have is the same mixtape copied over and over again? Sounds weird, but that's how software distributed from 80s well into mid-00s in Russia.

You didn't get particular products, you got a disk with "all the good bits" according to someone. Somehow Norton Commander ended up in the list at some point, so it instantly became a default and nobody knew anything better. Every DOS computer in 90s Russia booted right into NC, or its Russian clone VC.

Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by v_lisivka on Saturday March 31, 2018 @10:48AM (#16723507)
VC was too lightweight. Dos Navigator, written in Turbo Vision by developers from Moldova, was much better and replaced Norton Commander very quickly.
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by zerr on Tuesday April 03, 2018 @10:08AM (#16744695)
VC was written in asm.
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by rjzzleep on Friday March 30, 2018 @08:59PM (#16721022)
I don't know, is it? That's kinda how stuff was distributed in Germany back in the days. At least I think, I don't quite remember in detail what was on those disks. Although I don't remember any computer booting straight into nc

Was it that much different in the US?

Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by vbezhenar on Friday March 30, 2018 @10:54PM (#16721405)
I'm Russian and I have no idea! But I can confirm that it's very popular amongst old Russian developers.
Re:Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta by gukov on Friday March 30, 2018 @08:08PM (#16720834)
Norton Commander as well. Russians favour brutal simplicity.