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Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by doyoulikeworms on Saturday March 24, 2018 @10:53PM (#16670412)
People aren’t machines. Imagine yourself as a terrorist leader.

The US Army is combing the area you’re hiding in and you’re just waiting for an opportunity to slip away to fight another day. The isolation and paranoia are mounting, and you’re wondering why you decided to put yourself and your compatriots through this terrifying time. News from the field: they raided one of your supply caches and captured your closest co-conspirator. What about my family? What would my father think of me right now?

And then a disembodied voice gently beckons you to surrender.

Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by azernik on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:08AM (#16670699)
Sure, it could have an emotional effect - same as loudspeakers, only more intimate. But proposing that someone would "mistake the experience for some sort of divine intervention or a deteriorating mental condition" is a statement about a person's view of the factual reality you live in, which tends to remain intact even in stressful situations.

My issue is not with the funding of this project or with its use in counterinsurgency operations; it's with journalism that paints (mostly Muslim) terrorists as superstitious primitives, when in fact they are thoroughly products of modern society.

Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by daveFNbuck on Sunday March 25, 2018 @02:04AM (#16670993)
Typical members of modern society wouldn't assume that voices in their heads are being beamed in by the government. It's much more rational to think you have a deteriorating mental condition. If you believe in a personal god that communicates directly with people, that's also a viable option. That's a very common belief in the US.
Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by TeMPOraL on Sunday March 25, 2018 @04:21AM (#16671292)
> Typical members of modern society wouldn't assume that voices in their heads are being beamed in by the government.

Of course they would, if a) it was common, factual knowledge that the government actively uses such technology, and b) if they were a target for such government. a) and b) will immediately be true for terrorists, if this tech gets deployed.

Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by daveFNbuck on Sunday March 25, 2018 @11:04AM (#16672473)
The original complaint was about Muslims being depicted as superstitious primitives. Your current complaint is about Muslims being depicted as typical members of modern society rather than typical members of a future in which this type of weapon is common knowledge.

I think that even in such a future, mental deterioration and religious experience would remain viable potential explanations for hearing voices in your head. Even if you were 90% sure that it was the US government, that 10% chance that you're losing your mind or getting instructions from God is powerful.

You'd probably also be psychologically motivated to come up with an explanation that doesn't involve a large well-funded group of trained killers who are out to get you knowing exactly where you are and having their weapons trained on you.

Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by jryle70 on Sunday March 25, 2018 @08:05AM (#16671810)
>> Typical members of modern society wouldn't assume that voices in their heads are being beamed in by the government.

> Of course they would, if a) it was common, factual knowledge that the government actively uses such technology, and b) if they were a target for such government. a) and b) will immediately be true for terrorists, if this tech gets deployed.

Governments use propaganda, sure, but "beaming voices into people's head", without their knowledge? I haven't heard of it, definitely not common knowledge. Do you have a source?

Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by daveFNbuck on Sunday March 25, 2018 @11:05AM (#16672476)
I believe the source is this article.
Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by jryle70 on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:57PM (#16673068)
Yes. My reading comprehension failed. I read it as something that had been going on.
Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by jerkstate on Sunday March 25, 2018 @03:00AM (#16671113)
>voices in their head are being beamed in by the government.

Good point! Maybe they should also work on a lizard-person suit, or the technology to actually replace all of someone's family with robots, to help those "paranoid delusions" along.

Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Sunday March 25, 2018 @01:44AM (#16670941)
You are right. Once technology is known, people don't see magic. Nobody interprets airstrikes as fire from the gods.
Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by bfuller on Sunday March 25, 2018 @05:00AM (#16671382)
>a person's view of the factual reality you live in, which tends to remain intact even in stressful situations.

if youre forced to stay awake for a week straight your view of reality will entirely dissolve.

Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by azernik on Sunday March 25, 2018 @06:20AM (#16671559)
For which loudspeakers will do just fine, if you know where someone is with enough precision to pull this off.
Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by jryle70 on Sunday March 25, 2018 @08:07AM (#16671815)
But something more immersive, more discreet like this, works even better
Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by bfuller on Sunday March 25, 2018 @12:26PM (#16672888)
The laser allows you to achieve that to no detriment towards your own soldiers
Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by virgilp on Sunday March 25, 2018 @02:23AM (#16671040)
This reminded me of Grubber's review of the "digital touch" feature of Apple watch. It's probably similarly accurate :D

https://daringfireball.net/2015/04/the_apple_watch

Re:US Military Scientists Generate Voices Remotely via Laser by njharman on Sunday March 25, 2018 @02:56PM (#16673822)
> a disembodied voice gently beckons you to surrender

And then I'll remember this article and dismiss it / Get even more entrenched in my conviction that my "do anything to win" enemy must be destroyed.