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Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by emodendroket on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @04:30PM (#16642061)
What dish is made by doing that?

Frankly, I don't think I agree with this, because someone who's cooking with fresh ingredients gets to see, for instance, that they are adding a boggling amount of sugar to their food.

Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by vkou on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @04:54PM (#16642298)
Hashbrowns. Mashed potatoes. Fried in butter or oil in the former, butter added to make them taste good for the latter.

Who actually adds a mind-boggling amount of sugar to their food when they cook from basic ingredients? Everyone I know overdoes fats, but sugar?

Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by ceejayoz on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @05:02PM (#16642375)
> Who actually adds a mind-boggling amount of sugar to their food when they cook from basic ingredients?

The sugar contents of some of the staples - bread, sauces, etc. - can be shockingly high. A tablespoon of ketchup has more sugar than a chocolate chip cookie.

Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by emodendroket on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @05:03PM (#16642389)
Is someone who describes themselves as cooking from fresh ingredients likely dumping loads of ketchup into their food?
Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by ceejayoz on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @05:15PM (#16642493)
I suspect plenty of people who say they cook with "fresh ingredients" still use off-the-shelf bread, condiments, etc. They may pick organic, more "artisan" brands, but plenty will have surprising amounts of lurking sugar.

Ketchup isn't really any less fresh than the butter/oil.

Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by nicoburns on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @05:47PM (#16642720)
Sure, but home cooked food is fairly likely to include a sauce (e.g. vegetables in a tomato sauce) and thus not require as many condiments.
Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by vonmoltke on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @05:17PM (#16642503)
> A tablespoon of ketchup has more sugar than a chocolate chip cookie.

Ketchup has about 1/3 the calories of a chocolate chip cookie. What does it matter that it has the same amount of sugar?

Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by conistonwater on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @05:42PM (#16642681)
In addition, out of sauces ketchup is really the odd one out, most normal sauces and dressings are not supposed to contain sugar at all.
Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by WillPostForFood on Thursday March 22, 2018 @04:06AM (#16646732)
There is a big gap between ‘supposed to’ and the real world. Pick up any bottled dressing at a typical grocery store, and sugar or corn syrup will likely be a top ingredient. See the totally unnecessary addition to ranch dressing, for example:

http://www.kraftrecipes.com/products/kraft-16-fo-dressing-li...

Or even if you are making your own, a surprising number have sugar or honey as ingredients.

https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/italian-vinaigrette

Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by vonmoltke on Thursday March 22, 2018 @07:53AM (#16647774)
Who decides what something is "supposed to" contain? Why is it relevant?
Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by vkou on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @05:46PM (#16642718)
While we're on the subject of questionably-relevant comparisons, remember that bacon contains 500% more vitamin C, and 100% less sugar than Coca Cola.
Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by WillPostForFood on Thursday March 22, 2018 @04:04AM (#16646722)
And coke makes you fat and gives you diabetes while bacon doesn’t. So it is actually an interesting comparison. Well, the sugar part.
Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by vonmoltke on Thursday March 22, 2018 @07:51AM (#16647760)
How is that reasonably relevant? I can cherry-pick nutritional information to make any absurd comparison I want.
Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by vkou on Thursday March 22, 2018 @03:10PM (#16651694)
Which is what comparing the sugar content of ketchup and a chocolate chip cookie is. There's less sugar in a cookie than Ketchup, but ~3 times more carbs.

I was agreeing with your point.

Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by emodendroket on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @04:59PM (#16642344)
Who the hell fries hash browns in butter? It's liable to burn.

As to your second paragraph, well, here is my point illustrated. Added sugars are probably our biggest problem. Even when it comes to lipids, I don't think most people cooking at home are making Cheesecake Factory-style meals. But my understanding of the latest research is that trying to remove fats from your diet is no longer necessarily recommended.

Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by Afton on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @06:19PM (#16642956)
You can make delicious hash browns with just potatoes, salt, and butter. Yes, you have to keep it from burning, but it's not that hard, you just use a lower temperature. The result is delicious and crisp.

It's not the only way (Honestly, I prefer duck/goose fat if I'm feeling fancy, beef if not), but it's a perfectly acceptable way of making crispy delicious hash browns.

Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by HeyLaughingBoy on Thursday March 22, 2018 @05:44PM (#16652985)
Great! Now I have to try that this weekend :-(

Probably with cheese sauce for good measure...

Re:“Joy of Cooking” versus the Food Scientist by vonmoltke on Wednesday March 21, 2018 @05:10PM (#16642447)
> Hashbrowns. Mashed potatoes. Fried in butter or oil in the former, butter added to make them taste good for the latter.

I have never used a full stick of butter in the making of either of these. For hash I use as little as I need to lubricate the potatoes. For mashed I use about 1 tablespoon per 2.5 pounds of potatoes. Since I have never made 20 pounds at once, I have never used a full stick.