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Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by thrillgore on Thursday February 08, 2018 @05:18PM (#16336100)
If Tesla wanted to treat its staff like dirt, they should have moved their manufacturing to the Southeast, where there are weaker union provisions, and cheaper labor.
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by emodendroket on Thursday February 08, 2018 @10:35PM (#16337720)
Yet the factories it's operating have significantly higher rates of injury than even those workplaces.
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by dukes_haven on Thursday February 08, 2018 @10:43AM (#16332825)
Want to read the article but ... buzzfeed...
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by emodendroket on Thursday February 08, 2018 @10:59AM (#16332985)
They expanded into reporting a while ago now. Do you refuse to read reports from CBS because they also broadcast Big Bang Theory?
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by lulmerchant on Thursday February 08, 2018 @04:10PM (#16335620)
They built their business on the lowest form of tabloid clickbait that could possibly be imagined. You can't go from a position of 0 integrity, and then say "Hey, we're expanding into an integrity market. You're simply ignorant if you don't read our content".
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by emodendroket on Thursday February 08, 2018 @04:23PM (#16335695)
Well, why not? The reporting is adhering to the normal standards of the profession and seems basically firewalled from the meme listicles. Even mainstream news organizations are borrowing a lot of those techniques for engagement anyway. And to return to the CBS example, they existed purely as entertainment for nearly a decade before introducing a regular news broadcast. They don't deserve complete, unquestioning trust, but what news source does?
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by lulmerchant on Thursday February 08, 2018 @06:59PM (#16336685)
CBS didn't have integrity issues as a broadcaster before expanding into news. Buzzfeed's entire business model has been based on no-integrity clickbait garbage, that's what their brand represents. It doesn't matter if they decide to hire a few "real journalists", or at least what they think "real journalists" are, they have no credibility at all.
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by emodendroket on Thursday February 08, 2018 @09:20PM (#16337411)
Fortunately, they've documented where their claims come from, so you don't need to just trust them in this case. And I think your image of the edifying nature of early radio may be unfounded.
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by dragontamer on Thursday February 08, 2018 @05:33PM (#16336188)
It worked for Playboy.
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by stevefan1999 on Thursday February 08, 2018 @11:54AM (#16333515)
Hey, that's a joke: BuzzFeed made it.
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by emodendroket on Thursday February 08, 2018 @01:17PM (#16334234)
Who cares if it was published in Tiger Beat? It offers substantial documentation for its claims. It seems like a lot of folks want to attack Buzzfeed because they don't like what the article has to say but don't have any substantive rebuttal.
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by craig1f on Thursday February 08, 2018 @11:00AM (#16332987)
Every week there is a hit-piece on SpaceX, or Tesla, or Musk. Very rarely is the article grounded in reality. It is usually easy to prove the article false within 5 minutes.

I'm not even going to bother to read anything from Buzzfeed. There is almost no chance that any real reporting was done for this article.

Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by emodendroket on Thursday February 08, 2018 @11:03AM (#16333027)
So you have proof that the claims that Tesla ran a factory with higher-than-average rates of injury and fired workers who tried to unionize are false? Does interviewing fifteen workers and going through public records not count as reporting now?
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by notfromhere on Thursday February 08, 2018 @12:23PM (#16333763)
They were nominated for a Pulitzer not long ago, so maybe check your ego.
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by King-Aaron on Thursday February 08, 2018 @08:06PM (#16337062)
I do see where the sentiment against BuzzFeed comes from... As said by another commenter, it's difficult to go from no integrity to having integrity. I would be interested though to know which piece they were nominated for, as I don't follow that side of things very often. I wasn't aware that they did anything differently to their original formula, so I can understand why others aren't either.
Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by emodendroket on Thursday February 08, 2018 @10:31PM (#16337713)
It's been the better part of a decade since they began this shift, but I think it was really during the election that they became prominent because they broke a handful of big stories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuzzFeed

> Originally known for online quizzes, "listicles", and pop culture articles, the company has grown into a global media and technology company providing coverage on a variety of topics including politics, DIY, animals and business.[7][8] In late 2011, Ben Smith of Politico was hired as editor-in-chief to expand the site into serious journalism, long-form journalism, and reportage.

[...]

> BuzzFeed News received a 2016 National Magazine Award in the category of Public Interest.[35] Other awards won by BuzzFeed journalists include a 2014 National Press Foundation award,[78] 2015 Sidney Award,[79] and 2017 British Journalism Award.[80] In 2017, BuzzFeed also won Webby Awards for Best News App and Best Interview/Talk Show (for Another Round),[81] president Greg Coleman was named Publishing Executive of the Year by Digiday,[82] and journalist Chris Hamby was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in International Reporting.[83] BuzzFeed is a member of the White House press corps.[84]

At a certain point you're just sticking your head in the sand.

Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by King-Aaron on Thursday February 08, 2018 @10:41PM (#16337735)
Cheers for that!

> At a certain point you're just sticking your head in the sand.

To be honest, I don't think this is the case. Personally, I'm not actively going out of my way to avoid Buzzfeed articles - I genuinely just haven't looked at any in about that period of time. There possibly are other people like that.

As an aside, I don't personally have anything against the organization, it's just that their content hasn't really appealed to me in the past (especially so since I'm not in the US), so I haven't consumed it.

Re:Unsafe Working Conditions at Tesla’s Factory by emodendroket on Thursday February 08, 2018 @10:44PM (#16337744)
Yeah, don't get me wrong. It's not like I check BuzzFeed every day or anything. I am just a little annoyed that someone posted this article, which is interesting and involved some real shoe leather, and almost every single comment is just "lol BuzzFeed."