Re:Coinbase booked $1B in revenue last year, has told hoveri...
by aardvark291 on Monday January 22, 2018 @05:35PM
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Does this "$1B in revenue" include the $ that customers have deposited in order to buy cryptocurrency?
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Re:Coinbase booked $1B in revenue last year, has told hoveri...
by tomhoward on Monday January 22, 2018 @06:15PM
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It wouldn't, according to accounting principles. It would be accounted for as deposits received, with a balancing liability for when the customer makes a purchase or withdrawal.
They would only record revenue when they charge a transaction fee, or any other charge/income that can't be used by/returned to the customer at their discretion. Revenue is only revenue if it doesn't incur a matching liability.
Re:Coinbase booked $1B in revenue last year, has told hoveri...
by aardvark291 on Monday January 22, 2018 @11:01PM
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I agree that that's how it should work, but I wouldn't be surprised if Coinbase wasn't completely orthodox in their accounting. Replies below indicate that they may indeed be counting customer deposits as "revenue".
Re:Coinbase booked $1B in revenue last year, has told hoveri...
by sethgecko on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @04:52AM
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They have like 20m users, that would mean $50 deposited per users so.. no
Re:Coinbase booked $1B in revenue last year, has told hoveri...
by gamblor956 on Monday January 22, 2018 @06:31PM
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Per sources connected to their Finance Dept, that $1 billion in revenue does include amounts that would not normally be included in revenue under generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP).
Re:Coinbase booked $1B in revenue last year, has told hoveri...
by ActsJuvenile on Monday January 22, 2018 @08:12PM
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Coinbase and GDAX products operate differently.
Coinbase is a counter-party in all trades e.g., people buy FROM Coinbase or sell TO Coinbase. So $1B revenue number would include all deposits.
GDAX accounting would only count commissions as revenue.
Re:Coinbase booked $1B in revenue last year, has told hoveri...
by michaelchisari on Monday January 22, 2018 @05:41PM
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Also, how much of it is in fees collected and stored as cryptos themselves? If crypto takes a dive, does their revenue retroactively lose value?
Re:Coinbase booked $1B in revenue last year, has told hoveri...
by btian on Monday January 22, 2018 @06:24PM
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That would be asset, not revenue.
Re:Coinbase booked $1B in revenue last year, has told hoveri...
by alant on Monday January 22, 2018 @10:07PM
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You mean Asset Under Management or AUM?
Re:Coinbase booked $1B in revenue last year, has told hoveri...
by pfarnsworth on Monday January 22, 2018 @06:41PM
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No, that is not revenues even in a pro-rata sense. That's a liability on their balance sheet.