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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by derwiki on Thursday January 18, 2018 @10:54AM (#16178013)
I don't think it looks bad on a resume. Anecdotally, all of the candidates I've interviewed who work at Uber presently have been quite good.
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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by panarky on Thursday January 18, 2018 @11:35AM (#16178428)
When I see Uber on a resume I have to ask more questions to get comfortable that I'm not hiring an asshole.

Uber has many good, decent people, but there is definitely some guilt by association.

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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by xyzzy_plugh on Thursday January 18, 2018 @11:41AM (#16178490)
For what it's worth, I do the same -- except for Google and Apple , employees, and also anywhere else.

Guilt by association is just you being naive.

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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by panarky on Thursday January 18, 2018 @11:46AM (#16178523)
> Guilt by association is just you being naive.

You might be right.

But there are many people making hiring decisions who are just as naive as I am, so the Uber brand doesn't help.

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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by misun78 on Thursday January 18, 2018 @12:32PM (#16179109)
You are both anecdotally and factually incorrect. Go on LinkedIn and set past company to Uber. Most engineers (and nearly 100% I personally know) are either at Netflix, Facebook or Google. These companies in fact set targeted recruitment tactics in 2017 for Uber employees. I got emails from every company imaginable when the Susan Fowler report came out.
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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by mLuby on Thursday January 18, 2018 @11:19AM (#16178249)
It does to me. Specifically, it says the person either tolerates or contributes to what is widely regarded as one of the most toxic work cultures in software; same goes for Amazon. Up to me to determine whether they're the former or latter. Granted, when they joined and when they left and why makes some difference, but it's still not a great starting place for a candidate.
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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by Karunamon on Thursday January 18, 2018 @11:25AM (#16178326)
This reply right here is why I turned down Uber when a recruiter reached out to me. I have no moral qualms about a company that ignores taxi laws, but the irrational reputational damage has been done, no matter how much they cleaned up the workplace.

Hiring is already enough of a mind game with without adding "worked for a company the tech press loves to shred every chance they get" to my list of worries.

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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by derwiki on Thursday January 18, 2018 @11:29AM (#16178373)
Do you feel the same way about Zenefits?
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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by Karunamon on Thursday January 18, 2018 @11:39AM (#16178472)
No, but I wouldn't work for them for completely different reasons.
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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by autokad on Thursday January 18, 2018 @11:22AM (#16178290)
its good to know you judge people by where they come from and not what they can do / have done.
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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by ryguytilidie on Thursday January 18, 2018 @11:33AM (#16178402)
Actually, it sounds exactly like he's judging people based on what they "have done".
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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by maym86 on Thursday January 18, 2018 @11:32AM (#16178397)
Seems entirety reasonable to judge on both. A persons impact on your company is not just what they can do but also how they behave.
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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by nora4 on Thursday January 18, 2018 @02:43PM (#16180615)
The OP was being sarcastic
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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by maym86 on Friday January 19, 2018 @10:11PM (#16191847)
Nah
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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by fpoijasw on Thursday January 18, 2018 @11:49AM (#16178562)
Disclaimer: I work at Uber.

Wow tell me what company you're recruiting for. I'll make sure to never apply there. This is really priveleged thinking, I've worked for Google, Amazon, and Uber, and two start ups. Let me tell you the engineering culture aren't all that different across all orgs I've worked at. It's really simplistic and naive of you to take what you hear on the media as truth. It's only "widely regarded" because Uber is under heavy scrutiny, because of the industry we operate in. Tell me what company do you work for? If all of media put a magnifying glass over you and all your coworkers, I'll gauarntee, you'll soon be widely regarded as toxic. If your company is even remotely successful, I'll gauarntee that the media will find or spin up a business malpractice of some kind.

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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by stcredzero on Thursday January 18, 2018 @01:34PM (#16179892)
It's really simplistic and naive of you to take what you hear on the media as truth. It's only "widely regarded" because Uber is under heavy scrutiny, because of the industry we operate in.

Right. It's not as if journalism has been a paragon of ethics and civic mindedness of late.

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Re:The Fall of Travis Kalanick by mLuby on Thursday January 18, 2018 @12:36PM (#16179167)
Hey, look, it's okay. You're most likely a good person. You're getting paid well, working on a world-changing thing, and have lots of smart people around you. Don't let one Internet comment ruffle your feathers too much. :)
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