I’m extremely proud of the work I’ve done at Uber. I have no worries about finding my next job. I have a laundry list of companies who have contacted me since Jan 1, 2018, including FANG.

If the company doesn’t want to hire me because of where I work, I’m happy to not work for anyone who makes snap judgements based on resume line items. That’s basically like excluding people because of the city they grew up in, the school they went to, or the football teams that they support. I’m happy never working for or alongside people like that.

Given that your name is "uberemployee"... and that your comment history shows you are for lack of a better term an uber jingoist, I have to ask...

How do I know you're not some HR shill trying to do damage control?

/I say this half jokingly

Obviously it isn't. You don't choose the city you grow up in, and you have a limited choice over the school you go to. Football team is perhaps the closest in your list - if you support a team that has repeatedly cheated to win games then perhaps it's not unreasonable to judge a person based on their loyalty to that team.

To be clear, I'm not actually that convinced in the argument to not hire Uber employees based on their employment record. But we should at least represent the argument correctly.

My cohort of friends, many of whom are hiring managers, won’t even patronize Uber, much less hire someone who voluntarily worked there without demonstrably showing signs of serious soul searching about the ethics of the company.

3,000 engineers is not particularly out of line. It's certainly not ludicrous. It's a very large, global business, that is likely to get a lot bigger yet.

Still nothing to scoff at.

Uber has many good, decent people, but there is definitely some guilt by association.

Guilt by association is just you being naive.

You might be right.

But there are many people making hiring decisions who are just as naive as I am, so the Uber brand doesn't help.

Hiring is already enough of a mind game with without adding "worked for a company the tech press loves to shred every chance they get" to my list of worries.

Wow tell me what company you're recruiting for. I'll make sure to never apply there. This is really priveleged thinking, I've worked for Google, Amazon, and Uber, and two start ups. Let me tell you the engineering culture aren't all that different across all orgs I've worked at. It's really simplistic and naive of you to take what you hear on the media as truth. It's only "widely regarded" because Uber is under heavy scrutiny, because of the industry we operate in. Tell me what company do you work for? If all of media put a magnifying glass over you and all your coworkers, I'll gauarntee, you'll soon be widely regarded as toxic. If your company is even remotely successful, I'll gauarntee that the media will find or spin up a business malpractice of some kind.

Right. It's not as if journalism has been a paragon of ethics and civic mindedness of late.

Source: know quite a few Uber employees.

People historically went to work in any number of unethical organisations, including industrialised mass murder, human experiments, knowingly poisoning or defrauding people..the list is endless, and it was just any other job to them.

The structure of an organisation means nobody feels individual ethical responsibility, they are just doing their job after all.

In fact, I would say most corporate employees feel like that about the large anonymous bureaucracies they work in, but there is still a good number of people for whom this is unacceptable, the type that ends up saying no to hush money, the type that whisteb-lowers, the type that ends up being shot for part of a resistance against a dictatorship, and so on.

People again and again do this even though it often has terrible consequences for their personal fate, and I think this is the exact same kind of person who does not want to hire or work with the other type, the one that just does their job.