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Re:Google Memory Loss by epistasis on Monday January 15, 2018 @11:16PM (#16155786)
Oh man, Android does that too? This awful, terrible, no good fake "AI" behavior on iOS was one of the many quality issues with modern iOS that was making Android look more attractive.

iOS keyboards have been getting worse with every update, probably as more and more engineers feel the need to make a mark, or are required to fix bugs, and they spoil it. The simple and predictable statistical model of the original iOS was better than what we have now. So much of iOS was better back then, IMHO.

Re:Google Memory Loss by gaius on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @12:39AM (#16156083)
On BlackBerry if it autocorrected to something you didn’t want, one press of delete would revert to your original word. iOS makes you a) rekey the whole thing and b) will probably try to change it again. I can only assume that no one (or moons, it literally just tried) who works on this uses it themselves!
Re:Google Memory Loss by kakarot on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @01:40AM (#16156277)
I always thought Blackberry had the best autocorrect experience. My old Blackberry would occasionally surprise me by catching something I wouldn't think it would know about, and after some initial tuning never ever frustrated me. It only enhanced my experience.
Re:Google Memory Loss by gaius on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @03:38AM (#16156666)
I’m on an iPhone now but in many ways it’s a step backwards from my old BlackBerry Pearl, let alone the Bold I got next
Re:Google Memory Loss by iamdave on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @03:45AM (#16156691)
Call me a crazy person, lately I've been thinking long and hard about going back to the BB (BB Bold 9930) and am willing to make all the sacrifices that come with it for a lot of the frustrations with smartphone OSes listed in this thread. Maybe I'm getting older and my demands on what I expect from a phone are beginning to normalize and simplify: Text, Calls, Email, a browser for sports scores and reading news articles on the train.

Honestly it's very probable that I'll only ever keep a smart phone around as a music/podcast/audiobook device.

Re:Google Memory Loss by dreamcompiler on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @05:55AM (#16157257)
I never used a BB, but I did have a bunch of "dumb" cell phones, and I miss them. Making calls on them was easy: Flip open, press Talk, dial, Success! Now it's: Turn the phone on (which takes approximately 60 seconds on my Samsung because it can't see keystrokes until it finishes trying to connect to wifi), hit Home button, wait 3 seconds for that to work, hit Phone icon, wait 2 seconds, hit keyboard button, wait 1 second, dial phone waiting 500 ms between each key, press Call icon, wait 20 seconds for call to go through, hit speakerphone button (because as often as not the cheek sensor fails to work and my cheek disconnects the call), Success!

As the saying goes, smart phones are just pocket computers with shitty phones attached.

Re:Google Memory Loss by mkl on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @07:35AM (#16157716)
I think you need a better phone. I have none of these problems on my Samsung Galaxy Note 4.
Re:Google Memory Loss by dreamcompiler on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @11:51AM (#16159590)
This is a Galaxy S6. I'd probably get better performance if I didn't keep it in low-power mode, but I have no choice because the quest for thinner phones means the battery only lasts 2 hours in regular-power mode.
Re:Google Memory Loss by gaius on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @06:01AM (#16157292)
I am actually looking at prices now. The last model of Pearl can be had “new” for £85... only question is the battery...
Re:Google Memory Loss by dillweed on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @07:04AM (#16157564)
Wish I knew what bb 9930 was but I am considering becoming a Luddite
Re:Google Memory Loss by detaro on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @07:08AM (#16157584)
Re:Google Memory Loss by klodolph on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @01:14AM (#16156203)
On iOS, one press of delete and what you originally typed will show as a suggestion.
Re:Google Memory Loss by eltoozero on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @03:06AM (#16156546)
That’s only when you actually catch it mid stream.

Once you hit space and start a new word it’s game over.

Frequently happens at the worst moment when you’re trying to mash out a complex explanation in a rushed fury.

Re:Google Memory Loss by epistasis on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @08:56AM (#16158142)
That's not true for this situation. For the "deep" replacements more than a word back that we're talking about, and also other changes that happen without any user notification via blue text popups, there is no easy way to fix without the long process of moving the cursor.
Re:Google Memory Loss by gaius on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @02:19AM (#16156400)
For a replacement? Or for the next word?
Re:Google Memory Loss by ShabbosGoy on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @12:13AM (#16155994)
4 years ago was a very different time. Software quality in general continues to drop. I’m not sure if that’s due to increasing incompetence in the software engineering workforce (unlikely, but possible), malice (more unlikely), or apathy (most likely).

When wages don’t grow over 10 years, what incentive is there to write the best software you can?

Re:Google Memory Loss by Radim on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @02:32AM (#16156443)
I suspect the cause is a little more subtle (and terrifying).

The majority of people don't give a shit. Correct spelling and obscure searches are not even on their radar, it's not a part of their reality. Don't let the comments here fool you -- it is a very specific, picky, technical crowd that frequents HN.

The voice of "those who care" has always been a minority, although it used to matter more, simply because people who care and worry and try to do a good job tend to have more power and money (conscientiousness is a great predictor of success), and so businesses cater to them more. Now that everything seems to be turning more uniform, more global, more binary, more equal, that voice is marginalized (good thing? bad thing?) -- you're seeing the effect of a hoi polloi stampede.

So it's not the fault of "incompetent programmers" -- it may be a trickle down effect of our social incentives and economic trade-offs.

Re:Google Memory Loss by emmelaich on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @03:57AM (#16156736)
Yes, this the real reason. It's a variation on the Tyranny of the Majority.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

Re:Google Memory Loss by fishmeat on Wednesday January 17, 2018 @05:45AM (#16166913)
> The voice of "those who care" has always been a minority

To add to this, people who cares most powerfully had probably switched to alternative, open source, software solutions. This leaves the remaining group with less "care" on average so fewer would complain. Kinda like evaporative cooling.

Re:Google Memory Loss by josteink on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @07:20AM (#16157645)
> 4 years ago was a very different time. Software quality in general continues to drop. I’m not sure if that’s due to increasing incompetence in the software engineering workforce (unlikely, but possible), malice (more unlikely), or apathy (most likely).

I think another dimension is how deployability has changed.

Before... When you wrote and shipped software, getting your software out was a big problem, a big deal. This also meant that if you shipped a bug, shipping an update would be equally expensive (for you and your customers), and the amount of goodwill you lost would be quite tremendous.

Now everyone has a appstore, always up to date apps, and whatever else is usually "in the cloud" somewhere. The time of people installing applications in a normal desktop-context, with installers and having IT-administrators handle updates once every second year is surely long gone.

With that kind of change, and an increased focus on delivering early, doing proper QA is no longer something which is rewarded in the market.

Who cares if you made a bug-free, awesome service, when you did it 6 months after someone else shipped a similar, but buggy service which everyone is already using? They have established a user-base and as such already has social momentum and lock-in.

What do you have to offer which is not only fantastic enough to make some bother migrating, but also so amazing that these people will also go convert their friends and families? "Less bugs" alone is not going to cut it.

Basically, taking the time to deliver quality software these days is increasingly something you get punished for in the market-place.

The result? We get shit like this and we can only blame ourselves.

Re:Google Memory Loss by pjmlp on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @09:53AM (#16158560)
This will only get fixed when software starts to get liability and refunds.

If enough people start suing or asking back for their money, companies will surely improve their QA.

Re:Google Memory Loss by gboudrias on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @01:50AM (#16156306)
I find it more reasonable to assume that you can only improve a very specific function so much before your "improvements" turn to "pointless sidegrades".
Re:Google Memory Loss by Trav5 on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @02:46AM (#16156495)
Well said. I have seen a lot of sidegrades over the past 10 years!
Re:Google Memory Loss by Normal_gaussian on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @02:36AM (#16156455)
I don't know how easy it is to switch keyboards on iOS, but its a great idea on Android.

I use Minuum - looks whacko at first but let's me use way more of the screen when replying and it is really accurate!

Re:Google Memory Loss by dillweed on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @07:04AM (#16157565)
Easy bit wonky swift key is probably the best
Re:Google Memory Loss by nyolfen on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @02:02AM (#16156346)
you can turn off autocorrect
Re:Google Memory Loss by colordrops on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @02:53AM (#16156511)
It would be better if you could turn off some autocorrect features and leave others. It has a lot of facets, and autocorrect is great when it works.