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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by Razengan on Sunday January 07, 2018 @03:50PM (#16092623)
> Apple and pro users (mostly developers) had that big showdown after the touch bar came out. Every pro review I've seen so far has been that's it's excellent

Almost every Touch Bar MBP review has also been excellent. Sales of the Touch Bar MBPs surpassed the sales of almost all other competitors combined, in less than 1 week [0] (annnnd here comes the expected downplaying of why it sold so much, offering every convoluted reason but the possibility that it is actually, in fact, a good product.)

"Pro" users and Apple did not have a "big showdown." It's just an obnoxiously loud minority, with their puerile 4chan'ish dismissals like "Emoji keyboard!!1", who had never even really used a Touch Bar MBP, that were clogging up a few forums. People who barely exhaust even 16 GB in their daily work fake-whining about the inability to upgrade to 32 GB, even though almost no viable competing laptop supported that either at the time.

[0] https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/09/2016-macbook-pro-sales/

[1] https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/01/2016-macbook-pro-ssd/

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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by vetinari on Sunday January 07, 2018 @04:56PM (#16092967)
> Sales of the Touch Bar MBPs surpassed the sales

It would be fair to mention, that if you wanted the not-the-weakest-CPU or more than 2 USB ports, you had to get the touch bar version.

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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by ksec on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:47AM (#16095901)
It would be fair to mention, if any consumers ( which far out number professionals ) that wanted a Macbook but dont want a silly 12" screen would need to get a Macbook Pro.

And just to Mention, the report does not spilt between Touch Bar and Non Touch Bar. And we already know most premium prices notebook goes to Apple. That means Apple would have sold just as much if they didn't had the TouchBar.

There is Data, and how you interpret that data.

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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by sooheon on Sunday January 07, 2018 @07:33PM (#16093744)
Every other laptop manufacturer on earth had the opportunity to put together a computer with the not-weakest-cpu and more than USB ports without a touchbar.
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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by dzonga on Sunday January 07, 2018 @09:11PM (#16094133)
isn't the only viable competition to a MacBook pro is a Lenovo Carbon X1...which is equally expensive ?
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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by Warp__ on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:57AM (#16095521)
The XPS 15/13 is viable competition imho.
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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by robotresearcher on Sunday January 07, 2018 @11:13PM (#16094593)
Not with MacOS.
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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by dpkonofa on Sunday January 07, 2018 @09:21PM (#16094178)
I bought a Touch Bar MBP because it was finally time to retire my 2011 MBP and I think it's the best computer I've ever owned, period. I do video editing and media production (podcasts, company videos, etc.) and I feel like I put this thing though its paces regularly. On top of that, although I mainly have it hooked up to a separate display, keyboard, and mouse, the Touch Bar is amazing when I'm editing on the go. I kinda wish that my regular keyboard had it because I can scrub through all my media without having to jump back and forth between keyboard and mouse. On top of that, I installed Better Touch Tool and I can customize the Touch Bar to do pretty much anything I want and that's made it infinitely more usable. I also do app development and web development for our shop so having the terminal and being able to run node locally is wonderful.

I think the people that complained about it are people that either 1) didn't actually use one at all, 2) are 100% resistant to anything changing in their workflow, even if it might improve it in other ways (I'm looking at you ESC key nihilists in VIM), or 3) would never buy a Mac anyways because they like to tinker and/or upgrade their PCs regularly.

Frankly, I don't understand when these types of people get butthurt about a product that they will never buy and don't intend to buy just because others might get them. Just don't buy the damn thing and get on with your life. For those that do buy it because it fits their workflow and lifestyle, I think the damn thing is amazing.

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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by Razengan on Sunday January 07, 2018 @09:41PM (#16094267)
The utility of Better Touch Tool in customizing the Touch Bar to a "pro" or personalized workflow can't be overstated:

https://www.boastr.net/bettertouchtool-touch-bar-customizati...

https://medium.com/productivity-freak/what-if-you-could-real...

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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by sooheon on Sunday January 07, 2018 @11:36PM (#16094692)
It's a shame BTT won the mindshare, and Jitouch devs abandoned it. BTT still doesn't have the ergonomics Jitouch had ~2 or 3 OS versions ago, but it has the userbase.
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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by epmaybe on Sunday January 07, 2018 @11:01PM (#16094554)
Better touch tool is my favorite app purchase to date. I'm considering setting up a yearly donation because of how useful it has been for me.
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Re:Putting Apple’s iMac Pro Through the Paces by gaius on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:33AM (#16095436)
no viable competing laptop supported that either at the time

But, so what? You shop at Apple if you want better than the competition.

I work with multi-Tera datasets, and my use cases are common enough these days. Anyone doing CAD, bio, finance, video, etc etc etc would easily find uses for 32G or even more.

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