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Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by jatsign on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @08:28AM (#16060756)
Monero's big problem, right now, is that the fees are high - around $3. They're working on "Bulletproofs" that will reduce the size of transactions, and hopefully fees, by 80%.

Zcash has more advanced crypto, but it takes nearly a minute to generate a private transaction on a normal computer.

My favorite "privacy" coin is PIVX. It uses the zerocoin protocol and is fast with low fees. Die-hard privacy advocates don't like it because it uses Masternodes, but I consider that a plus from an adoption point of view.

Here's a privacy coin comparison of these & others, if anyone is interested.

https://www.bitcoinbeginner.com/blog/privacy-coin-comparison

Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by the_stc on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @09:48AM (#16061360)
The problem is that miners cost in USD but Monero fee is set in XMR, fixed. If fee goes down 80% but XMR/USD goes up again 5 times then the problem persists. Not an easy thing to fix!

If Bulletproofs and the new CT format come in and the mandatory ringsize is increased to a level providing some privacy, the fees would be very worthwhile. But with ringsize 5 they are certainly excessive! We should hope they increase to at least 10. After ringsize, the difference between 1/2 and 2/2 txn continues to be an issue.

Or at a minimum a wallet update could fix some of these things issues. Better ring member selection that does not include odd ring sizes or in/out numbers.

If you are a seller and receive 2 payments from a user then you send that money to a known place (maybe exchange) you have are now near 100% traceability! This is because even with high-ring-size, the chance of both known-bad inputs happening in one tx is very low.

Currently Monero is doing a great harm to users by not having a prominent warning. Monero should adopt Tor Project attitude and tell users: Making a Monero transaction does not give you full privacy. Then link to a bit more nuanced discussion about churn and traceability. Especially for people that receive multiple payments! Monero may encourage people to rely solely on Monero (without churn) for privacy, to their downfall.

And even churn has a big disclaimer from MRL. They say in some <vague> conditions churn is statistically detectable. Maybe a big issue for dark net vendors that often receive payments then churn then send to their exchange...

Disclaimer: I am running an extrajursidictional company and dealing with payments will become a major focus as we start to pay out dividends and need to do so in an untraceable fashion. Plus...in a few months I will need to draw salary so this is very near-and-dear to my heart!

Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by htormey on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:30AM (#16062354)
So what is the liability of someone in the USA investing in an "extrajursidictional company"?

The parent is doing an ICO for an escort service, if I was to say do an ICO for an assassination service would the people who invested be in anyway liable? Is it legal to raise funds for an expressly illegal purpose?

Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by ifdefdebug on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @09:59AM (#16061455)
wtf is an "extrajursidictional company"? Do you mean you are running a tax evasion scheme?
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by the_stc on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:19AM (#16061643)
An extrajurisdictional company operates outside of existing jurisdictions. It might be helpful to think of us as being headquartered in space...if our opsec is correct, we might as well be! (Otherwise I'll be arrested and our contingency procedures will kick in to work with the successor.)

It is not for tax evasion: we fully intend to comply with tax law everywhere we offer service, though there are some practical issues. We chose EJC vehicle due to worldwide laws on sex work and unregulated securities. For example: In the U.S. mere advertising sites run the risk of legal persecution. How much more so for a full escorting platform?

Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by sillysaurus3 on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @03:31PM (#16064779)
I've been watching your progress for awhile now. I'm pretty convinced you're not just doing this to con people. You're genuinely trying to start something new.

If you run with people's money, you will discourage anyone else from attempting this. But if you're genuine, then this could be the start of a unique kind of model.

Best of luck, assuming you're honest.

I have no opinion on your specific company. It's more interesting that you're using ICOs to fund your operation, and that you seem to have a chance of succeeding.

One tip, though. Be prepared for unfair behavior. If LEA decides to contact the NSA to help track you down, they can probably figure out some way to trip you up.

Also, it's probably important to show some kind of hard progress. Hopefully you'll release something soonish.

Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by arethuza on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:48AM (#16061921)
"extrajursidictional company" sounds like an oxymoron to me - companies are legal constructs (at least by any definition that I have heard) so having a company "outside" a legal jurisdiction would appear to be impossible?
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by the_stc on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @01:02PM (#16063303)
Company can refer to a group or team in addition to the legal construct. As a thought experiment if someone winked into existence in orbit around Earth and started selling data, it seems quickly understood if they were to call themselves a company.
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by everdev on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:32AM (#16062370)
Where do you live? Pretty sure that country has legal jurisdiction over you.

Where is your money kept? Pretty sure that country has legal jurisdiction over your company.

A smart contract / contingency procedures sound great but aren't bulletproof. When people are threatened with jail or losing everything they tend to cooperate.

Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by antihero on Thursday January 04, 2018 @05:57AM (#16069358)
I'm interested in this escorting platform, as I've been considering building one that is designed from the perspective of protecting sex workers and enabling them to operate more safely, as opposed to shitshows like AW that are just awful and exploitative.
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by rajacombinator on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @07:16PM (#16066795)
Recommended reading on this? Asking for a friend. (EJC, not the hookers.)
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by nu-world-odor on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:40AM (#16061851)
you mean you're a pimp then
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by deadmetheny on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:20AM (#16062242)
"Short-term relationship facilitator" is a far more marketable term, though
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by Avshalom on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:22AM (#16062261)
Well if they're worried about international sex laws they're presumably more of a sex trafficker.
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by the_stc on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @12:57PM (#16063238)
No, we explicitly do not work with pimps or traffickers. Users must be of age, and we will do what pattern recognition we can to detect when multiple accounts are controlled by one entity.

Escorts spend a huge amount of time (up to 70% or more) doing non-billable work. We aim to cut that time down significantly, while making things smoother for everyone involved.

Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by kylek on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:07AM (#16062111)
Been seeing this a lot lately. I can't picture anyone saying it with a straight face.
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by jacobush on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:29AM (#16061741)
Newspeak for illegal.
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by jameskegel on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @08:47AM (#16060883)
This needs a source because it is not true at all

>Zcash has more advanced crypto

Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by jatsign on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @09:10AM (#16061055)
https://z.cash/technology/zksnarks.html

I suppose by "advanced" I meant new. It's equally fair to say "not as well validated by crypto researchers".

Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by indescions_2018 on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:07AM (#16062110)
The other competitor being mentioned on dark markets is XVG:

https://vergecurrency.com/

Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by ErikAugust on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:41AM (#16062480)
Have you taken a real look at the Verge codebase? https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by jatsign on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:32AM (#16062371)
Can you show a dark market actually discussing it? Verge has got to be the worst privacy coin.
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by 45h34jh53k4j on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:09AM (#16062136)
good luck with that: http://xvg.keff.org/
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by ianmiers on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @09:19AM (#16061126)
Whats the throughput on PRIVX? Last I checked, Zerocoin transactions were 25kb and the deployed versions were limited to one anonymous TX per block.
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by plopz on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @09:21AM (#16061138)
How do you feel about MimbleWimble?
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by nerdponx on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:36AM (#16062426)
Why PIVX instead of Zcoin itself?
Re:The Criminal Underworld Is Dropping Bitcoin for Monero by jatsign on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @12:13PM (#16062775)
I don't think it's for a rational reason tbh. Maybe I just like the stupid name. The two are very similar (with znodes now out for zcoin).