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Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by lathiat on Friday December 29, 2017 @09:51PM (#16033536)
Australia is fairly similar to this. Particularly the fee free transfers between banks (for both private and business)

What’s interesting is that next year most of the banks seem to be launching an instant bank transfer system - big interbank implementation. Right now it takes generally 1 business day if you’ve transacted with that account before and 3 business days if you haven’t. I assume that’s some kind of anti fraud but not 100% sure.

Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by vadimberman on Saturday December 30, 2017 @12:48AM (#16034042)
Australia may not be known as a banking superpower but it has the most user-friendly, affordable, efficient financial infrastructure of all the places I lived in.

There's the most kickass Bill Pay system ever and DEFT, which allows paying by several methods including the credit card, potentially gaining reward points for paying rent. (Reward credit cards may be pricey though.)

Overseas wire cost a measly flat AU$20 a few years ago in WestPac, local transfer was free and quick to a low-risk recipient (and most recipients are reasonable enough to go on with a transaction if you send them a PDF proving you sent the money). If you run a business, your company account can be accessed via the same customer ID.

Suspicious transactions are spotted and the bank calls you if they suspect foul play; the false alarms are rare. Fraudulent transactions (at least minor) are reversed - happened to me once and to my wife several times. No US-like secrecy for bank account numbers, you normally publish your bank account for the people to make transfer to. Tokens are used for business accounts, while the consumers don't have to bother with these.

There's generally no banking fee unless the account is dormant, and then it's about $5 or something (not $20 - $40 like in the US or Singapore).

Nobody uses cheques, obviously (although they do exist).

In terms of foreign currency transfer, there is also OFX, a nifty service where you can keep your incoming funds until the exchange is more favourable (nope, Transferwise doesn't have it), and that charges you the fraction of what the banks take.

Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by will_hughes on Saturday December 30, 2017 @02:34AM (#16034284)
> Nobody uses cheques, obviously (although they do exist).

Cheques are now mainly used for business to consumer payments, and for large value transactions, where it's done as a bank-drawn cheque usually.

The bank I use doesn't have a branch anywhere near where I live, so when I got sent a cheque a while ago I had to ask how to go about depositing it. Turns out the bank I use for my credit card will happily accept them via their ATMs which print out a receipt with a scan of the cheque.

Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by mcbain on Saturday December 30, 2017 @06:43AM (#16034860)
I’ve still got a chequebook. It is probably 20 years old.

The last cheque I wrote was two years ago for a house deposit. I think the second last was 9 years before that for the deposit for our previous house.

Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by vadimberman on Saturday December 30, 2017 @03:01AM (#16034338)
> Cheques are now mainly used for business to consumer payments,

I vaguely remember a couple of times years ago (late 2000s, I think) I had a cheque sent to me, but it was done electronically in most cases. Point taken though.

> and for large value transactions, where it's done as a bank-drawn cheque usually.

True, but a bank cheque is a different thing altogether.

Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by roganartu on Saturday December 30, 2017 @08:09AM (#16035097)
> (nope, Transferwise doesn't have it)

fwiw Transferwise has had this for around 3 months now: https://transferwise.com/borderless

Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by vadimberman on Saturday December 30, 2017 @10:06PM (#16039117)
I knew someone would comment on the borderless account (I opened these, too), but it's not even close.

The borderless accounts are:

1. Limited to a handful of currencies. OFX isn't.

2. In the US at least, can't receive international transfers. OFX can. I'm sure there are other limitations, too.

3. It's unclear how much is to be paid to transfer the money from the borderless account to yours. OFX charges nothing to keep the incoming funds "in custody" for up to a month.

Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by sbennettmcleish on Saturday December 30, 2017 @07:05AM (#16034935)
good summary. Only bit missing would be the recently / soon to be phased out $2 non-bank ATM price gouge
Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by vadimberman on Saturday December 30, 2017 @10:07PM (#16039120)
Wow, even that! In the US it's normal to charge US$2.5 or even higher, although some bank accounts refund these charges back to you at the end of the month.
Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by shakna on Friday December 29, 2017 @10:13PM (#16033637)
CommBank and NAB spear-headed instant transactions.

CommBank dropped an absolute mint on it, with a goal of sub-second transactions, with decent fraud protection.

After a bunch of talks between the big banks, and VISA and MasterCard, and a little bit to do with the ombudsmen from various government branches, it was decided to share out that architecture, including fraud protection.

The fraud protection is actually really good, and thanks to actual cooperation between the banks, reimbursement is a fairly likely scenario.

Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by nickonline on Saturday December 30, 2017 @01:36AM (#16034168)
None of the banks really wanted instant transactions, it's expensive, the RBA essentially forced them to.
Re:Your Mother’s Maiden Name Is Not a Secret by willvarfar on Saturday December 30, 2017 @04:08AM (#16034499)
Big win for consumers and businesses then.