When designing Rust, we quickly learned that the idea of picking short names to satisfy experienced users at the cost of new ones doesn't work in practice. Too many users complain that the language is too hard to learn and ugly; it took years for "Rust is so ugly, it's the resurrection of Perl" to finally stop being a meme. If we had stuck to our guns with short keywords, Rust might have been dead by now.
Choosing unfamiliar syntax such as car and cdr worked for Lisp because, during the '70s, Lisp as a whole was novel enough to gain a sizable following. It doesn't work today. (And note that, even then, Lisp lost a lot of potential users due to the S-expression based syntax.) I'm firmly in the "first" and "rest" camp, because history has shown that readable languages much more frequently go on to be successful than languages with idiosyncratic syntactic choices.
Car and cdr also reflect a sometimes misunderstood aspect of Lisp: lists are an abstraction for sequential memory addresses in the Von Neumann architecture. The sense in which Lisp was designed for functional programming only goes about as far as one can pragmatically throw the lambda calculus. Practically and historically speaking Lisp programming was only slightly less about mutation than any other language. Design for current state of the art (in the 70's, 80's and 90's) is why Common Lisp has destructive versions of everything useful. Heck, Lisp even mutates its source code.
At the end of the work week, the major language design choice is not so much between car/cdr and first/rest it's between the language having a concept of first/rest and not having one: e.g. Python, Javscript, Go[?], C, and so on.
Finally, car/cdr is not that much worse than first/rest for all those programmers who are not fluent in English. Naming things is hard mostly because names are arbitrary. Both car/cdr and first/rest require the harder concept of fixed order data...and next makes more sense than first if one applies the stream abstraction.
The 90% case here is "second", "third", etc. For more exotic cases, surely there are other naming conventions that would be more readable. You could use "h" and "t" for head and tail, or "l" and "r" for left and right...
> At the end of the work week, the major language design choice is not so much between car/cdr and first/rest it's between the language having a concept of first/rest and not having one: e.g. Python, Javscript, Go[?], C, and so on.
The "concept of first/rest" is just the concept of pairs, which are a special case of tuples, which Python and JS certainly have.
Python and Javascript may have pairs. They just live at the bottom of a Turing Tarpit.
Although few know it, and fewer use it, Python 2.x allowed tuples to be unpacked in function heads, like Erlang. Since my last job was 100% Erlang, I stumbled into using it without knowing any better.
I decided a couple of months later that since it was a new project, I really should convert to Python 3, whereupon I discovered that feature had been removed due to parsing complexity and "because no one uses it."
Sigh.
In addition to first and rest, Lisp has provided second, third, fourth, etc since the 70s, as well as the more general nth/elt which just takes the index as an argument.
> there are other naming conventions that would be more readable. You could use "h" and "t" for head and tail, or "l" and "r" for left and right
Why would you bother replacing names with 60 years of precedent with h and t so that instead of cdaddr you could write thtt? I think cdaddr nonsense is illegible and very bad style, but I don't see how someone could seriously suggest writing thtt as a good solution to that readability problem. The real solution is to use named accessors instead of ad-hoc pointer chains.
Unfortunately, those cases exhibit poor style if they are mixed with cddr. For instance, I would never write this:
(when (and (consp (cdr x)) (consp (cddr x)))
(do-something (third x)) ;; ouch!
)
If we checked that cddr is a cons, we then want to access caddr (its car) or cdddr (its cdr).Those first, second, rest and whatnot are really geared toward when the structure is a (proper!) list. If it really is just a proper list and we just want to be sure it has a third element, it would be more consistent to just do
(when (>= (length x) 3)
(do-something (third x))
Basically stick to one way or the other.first and rest are bad names for what car and cdr do, in the general case. If you have "Jenny" mapped to "867-5309" in a dictionary, then getting the "Jenny" part of that binding with first and the "867-5309" part with rest doesn't really make any sense. Similarly, if you have a node in a binary search tree, getting the subtree with the lesser elements with first and the subtree with the greater elements with rest also doesn't make any sense.
Lisp, even in the 70s, uses first and rest as synonyms for car and cdr for the case where you are operating on a list. first and rest do not make sense as replacements for car and cdr in the general case, however, and if all you want is to have them as synonyms for when they do make sense, then Lisp has been providing that since the 70s.
I don't know what you mean by ML-style, as most ML-derived languages call car and cdr fst and snd; I don't know any that call them head and tail.
But aside from that: really? I think of head and tail as being basically synonymous with first and rest (every language I know of that has built-in head and tail functions, or that idiomatically uses head and tail or abbreviations for variable names, uses them to mean the first element, and the list beyond that element. I don't know any that use them for two parts of a 2-tuple). The left child of a binary tree node being the head and the right side being the tail makes no sense at all to me. Not that car and cdr shouldn't be aliased when they're being used that way, but reading as "element a" and "element b" is better to me than "head" and "tail" which are equally meaningless, but by having English names imply meaning.
Lisp offers (since the 70s) the aliases first and rest for when conses are being used as lists, and I think those are fine and should be used when you are operating on lists. Conses can be used as other things than lists, though, and first/rest (or head/tail) don't work as meaningful names for any usecase aside from lists. Head/tail are totally equivalent to first/rest to me and I don't really care which pair is used for naming the list-handling functions, but they're both bad sets of names for the cons handling functions.
In ML, head/tail are a bit of training wheels anyway. Most interesting ML code relies on [x1::x2::x3::[y::ys]] pattern matching. Erlang (another telecom language but without ML's academic pedigree) foregos a formal head/tail and just relies on idiomatic {H|T} pattern matching. In ML head/tail make it easier to teach students the concept of car/cdr, but not much else.
And were it so that one really felt that LISP were incomplete without `first` and `rest`, wouldn't it be trivial to wrap them in custom functions (ie alias them)?
Don't get me wrong, but of all the things that will make learning LISP a bit of work, adding a couple of utility functions isn't on the radar...
A long forgotten five minutes sometime in Y2000 in my case.
As other commenters have pointed out, we could add to your list the classical point that car and cadr are composable, so cadr, cdar, etc. This creates a simple DSL for list manipulation which sometimes is just what's needed.
That may be true in LISP, but it's not true in Clojure (which I assume is a fair paragon for the first/rest camp), where first works just fine on strings and vectors:
=> (first "abc")
\a
=> (first [1 2 3])
1
> 5. When you're operating on lists as trees, the names first and rest are actively misleading. The car and cdr are the left and right subtrees, not the first and rest of something.Firstly, trees can clearly branch out more than n=2. Then, nth becomes a much cleaner term than "left" and "right" which immediately limit you to 2 cases. But, let's say we're talking about n=2 trees. Consider:
headmarc.core=> (second [1 2 3])
2
And, of course, if that still seems unreasonable: (def left first)
(def right second)
... but maybe what you really want is a zipper, which has everything you're asking for and more: https://clojure.github.io/clojure/clojure.zip-api.html#cloju... 1> (car "abc")
#\a
2> (cdr "abc")
"bc"
3> (cddr "abc")
"c"
4> (cdddr "abc")
nil
5> (caddr "abc")
#\ccl, cr I could live with, maybe. (consleft, consright). Other suggestions, head and tail, fst and snd, which have some of the other touted advantages. (I don't necessarily agree with them, but they also don't hurt, so...)
…and probably allows for more typos and misreads during code review or something else. Luckily 'a' is distinct enough from 'd' visually so the difference between them is more noticable; imagine functions ending up with unfortunate names like cbr/cdr or car/cer…
If by trees you mean 2-ary trees, sure. For any other n, #'first and #'rest are probably the correct generalisation.
1. They're shorter.
2. They're the same length, which means in practice that a lot of code lines up in a way that's easier to read.
3. They look similar to one another, which telegraphs that they're part of the same set of list access tools. Code that munges lists looks like it munges lists.
4. Their meaning is precise: car just takes the first element of a list. Whereas something called first might reasonably be expected to also give you the first element of a vector, or a string.
5. When you're operating on lists as trees, the names first and rest are actively misleading. The car and cdr are the left and right subtrees, not the first and rest of something.