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Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by elchief on Saturday December 16, 2017 @01:00AM (#15938042)
Eh. I live in vancouver and pay $34/mo for fibre and $40/mo for unlimited LTE + calling.

I lived in Florida and my net taxes, incl health insurance was the same

Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by brailsafe on Saturday December 16, 2017 @02:27AM (#15938325)
While this may be possible, I think you are drastically misrepresenting your own situation and the rest of Canada.

If you're phone plan is legit, I'd like to see what it is. My bet is that you're paying Rogers $40/month for some tiny amount of data over LTE[1].

Secondly, this is like saying "I live in a super rich suburb and never see homeless people around. Must not be an issue."

Now, I don't actually think that your intention was malicious, but come on. Vancouver is the rich suburb of Canada when it comes to anything.

Cheap fibre in Vancouver is more or less something you luck into by getting into a new and super expensive condo or hopping on an intro offer from Shaw or Telus.

[1] https://www.rogers.com/consumer/wireless/smartphone-plans?ip...

Edit: I'd be so bold as to suggest that even while Vancouver does have some options for cheaper internet, the median cost per person would be notably higher than the rest of the country.

Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by krrrh on Saturday December 16, 2017 @04:14AM (#15938618)
The good deals on fibre in Vancouver come from companies like Novus[1] that only serve the downtown core. Most of the city is stuck with Telus and Shaw.

[1] http://www.novusnow.ca/internet/

Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by brailsafe on Saturday December 16, 2017 @05:35AM (#15938887)
Indeed. Though I didn't realize they only serve the downtown core. I lived in Burnaby, in a new condo development that was contractually locked in to Shaw for the entire building. Telus came in after, but I imagine things like that make it more difficult to compete as a smaller company.
Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by elchief on Saturday December 16, 2017 @04:13PM (#15942140)
I don't live in the downtown core, though I do have Novus
Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by elchief on Saturday December 16, 2017 @04:12PM (#15942138)
It starts getting throttled at 5 GB but I've never used more than 2

I live in an inexpensive building built in the 1980s

There are options, but many people don't know about them or are unwilling to do anything

Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by rubatuga on Saturday December 16, 2017 @03:19AM (#15938473)
This is a terrible case of anecdotal evidence, and you contribute absolutely nothing to actual sentiment of most Canadians. Most Canadians pay more than $85/mo for 5GB of data. Furthermore, I'm originally from Manitoba, where people are upset that our $48/mo 5GB plan is increasing next year to prices similar to other regions, because our local telecom service (MTS) has been bought out by Bell (one of the big 3). The only reason this cheap plan existed was because there was competition within our province, and now it has been sold to the highest bidder.
Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by zeep on Saturday December 16, 2017 @02:18AM (#15938298)
In Florida, I pay $20/mo for 10mbps cable and it includes 5 cellphone lines w/ unlimited voice+text and 100mb mobile data... $12/month for each additional gb or $45 for unlimited data, shared among the 5 cellphones. https://www.xfinity.com/mobile/plan

To keep the $20/mo, I will have to call them after 1 year of service.

In Canada, isn't there a data cap on your fiber internet? I think I have 1tb/mo here for my cable internet.

Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by ukyrgf on Saturday December 16, 2017 @03:31AM (#15938500)
"I will have to call them" ends after a few years. I got brickwalleded trying to renew my starter fees last time; they've raised rates so many times and don't care (and added data caps).
Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by freeone3000 on Saturday December 16, 2017 @05:25AM (#15938844)
Depends on the carrier. I've always been able to add "unlimited usage" as an add-on (usually about $15). I'm currently on Videotron's 1Gbps package which is unlimited.
Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by TheRealPomax on Saturday December 16, 2017 @06:02AM (#15938966)
Wow, that's impressive, because Telus charges about $100/mo for fiber, and even something like Freedom Mobile charges $60 for "unlimited data" but only 8GB on LTE and everything after that on low speed. I don't know what magic packages you managed to arrange for yourself, but the rest of us sure as hell don't pay that litte.
Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by tempestn on Saturday December 16, 2017 @03:58AM (#15938571)
Several of the top carriers are running a promo right now that includes unlimited calling and 10GB of data for $60/month. It's literally the best publicly available plan I or anyone I've spoken to have heard of. Several people I know, including myself, have switched.

So, the wireless situation does finally seem to be getting better due to competition from new entrants like Wind/Freedom mobile. I've never heard of anything close to $40 for unlimited LTE + calling though. (Although I believe Freedom does throttle your connection rather than cutting you off when you hit their data cap; is that what you're referring to as "unlimited LTE"?)

Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by rubatuga on Saturday December 16, 2017 @04:31AM (#15938666)
Can you link to the promotion?
Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by tempestn on Saturday December 16, 2017 @05:09AM (#15938788)
It's described here: http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/telus/koodo-promo-60-p...

All that Koodo has online is a message on their homepage: "You want gigs? We got gigs! Bring your own phone and get 10GB of data for $60/month. Details in store." - https://www.koodomobile.com/

I signed up for the plan today though and can confirm the details in that first link.

Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by parthdesai on Saturday December 16, 2017 @02:15AM (#15938289)
$40/mo for unlimited LTE + calling is absolutely not the norm here in Ontario at least. I pay $40/mo with freedom for "unlimited" LTE but signal is iffy if you go to suburbs (works for me since i live and work in DT).

Check all the deals today, and every provider is giving $50/$60 per month for 10 gb data + unlimited calling.

Re:As the U.S. Retreats, Canada Doubles Down on Net Neutrality by tempestn on Saturday December 16, 2017 @04:01AM (#15938576)
Note that only Koodo and Freedom are offering this indefinitely. The other carriers' plans expire after 2 years. If trends continue it will be possible to find something at least as good by then, but no guarantees.

I just switched to Koodo from Fido, since Freedom isn't available on Vancouver Island.