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Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by eastendguy on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:08AM (#15931484)
People Still Don't Get the Link Between the Number of People on this Planet and Climate Change

(I hardly eat meat these days, but nothing will help if the population continues to grow at the same rate)

Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by Yusho on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:17AM (#15931554)
That's exactly why the rule of 72 should be thought more often. Just seeing how quickly the population can double at the current growth rate is an eye opener.

72 / 1.1 = 65 Years

Meat isn't the problem, endless growth is.

Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by newscracker on Friday December 15, 2017 @10:51PM (#15937445)
Population growth doesn’t remain static. It’s not going to double in the time frame you’ve projected. In fact, it’s not going to reach that figure for much longer, if at all.

Hans Rosling’s talks (on TED and YouTube) throw a lot of light on the peak population we’d likely reach, the reasons for those and also what we can do to control it (the key is educating girls). He died some months ago, but his talks and work are engaging and illuminating.

Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by nine_k on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:26AM (#15931607)
Do regions with most growth also eat most meat, per capita?
Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by Yusho on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:33AM (#15931649)
When we look at the 3 countries with the most growth in combination with meat consumption (data from wikipedia)

1. China 58.2 kg/person and year

2. India 4.4 kg/person and year

3. USA 120.2 kg/person and year

There are very big differences that have more to do with culture and income rather than growth.

sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_growth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_cons...

Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by emodendroket on Friday December 15, 2017 @10:06AM (#15932295)
No.
Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by 1457389 on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:13AM (#15931519)
In Which Eastendguy Obfuscates the Much Stronger Nature of the Link Between Profligate Western Meat Consumption Patterns and Climate Change
Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by kbart on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:27AM (#15931612)
"Much Stronger Nature of the Link"

Citation needed. I would bet my money that growth of population and urbanization has bigger impact than meat industry.

Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by melling on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:27AM (#15931608)
I don’t get the connection either. The United States with 4% of the world’s population produces a lot of CO2. India with 4 times the number of people produced half as much.

China with 4 times the number of people now produces twice as much as the US. China’s CO2 surged in the past two decades.

Finally, does this have anything to do with meat?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_...

Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by lozenge on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:41AM (#15931704)
A lot of China's CO2 production is to create goods that are purchased by the US and other developed countries. http://m.pnas.org/content/107/12/5687

And yes, some 15% of humans' GHG production can be attributed to meat.

Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by melling on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:55AM (#15931781)
The first line states this:

“CO2 emissions from the burning of fossil fuels are the primary cause of global warming”

China uses almost much coal as the rest of the world combined:

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=16271

That chart seems to correlate with China’s emission increases:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_...

Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by lozenge on Friday December 15, 2017 @11:12AM (#15932783)
I don't disagree, I'm just pointing out that a lot of China's coal use is to power factories that export goods to the US. If China used anything other than the cheapest energy for their factories, you would be seeing "made in India/some other country more willing to pollute to save us a few cents" a lot more in Wal-Mart.
Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by vixen99 on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:32AM (#15931642)
Depends which area. Europe is dying out with a fertility rate in most parts of much less than 2.1 as required for sustained population. https://jakubmarian.com/fertility-rate-by-region-in-europe/
Re:People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Cl... by Sir_Cmpwn on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:33AM (#15931645)
Population will not continue to grow at the same rate. The global population is expected to level off within 100 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projections_of_population_grow...