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Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by tptacek on Thursday December 14, 2017 @01:48PM (#15925383)
I do not agree. I believe Republican voters do not in fact want the government extensively regulating the Internet. It is very difficult to argue in 2017 that the Republican party is the party of a pragmatic, consumer-protected regulatory state. The Republicans believe that the market will take better care of Internet users than any regulatory agency. On this one issue, it's possible they're even right.
Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by betterunix2 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @02:17PM (#15925820)
"The Republicans believe that the market will take better care of Internet users than any regulatory agency. On this one issue, it's possible they're even right."

There is a pretty significant problem with this reasoning: what market are you referring to? Most Americans have zero, one, or two broadband ISPs they can receive service from. In most cases where there is any choice, it is between cable and DSL, which have very different technical characteristics and are not always interchangeable.

I could get behind a market-based approach if there was some kind of proposal to foster a market. What happened to the line-sharing requirements that gave us competition among DSL services in the late 90s? That was a market-based solution and it worked well; that approach continues to work well in other countries.

Instead, the current approach is to leave the monopolies and duopolies in place, and to do nothing to reduce barriers to entry for competing services or otherwise foster a competitive market.

Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by russdill on Thursday December 14, 2017 @02:38PM (#15926074)
We could sit here all day and argue about net neutrality regulation all day. But "let the market decide"? I don't know how someone can say that with a straight face.
Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by sudojudo on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:10PM (#15926465)
It's not a straight face, it's a smirk, and they'll keep saying it so long as it bothers you. They'll happily eat dog shit if the opposition has to smell their breath.

This is how populism works, and it's only going to get worse.

Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by spsful on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:52PM (#15926910)
That was a damn good mic drop my friend
Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by kup0 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @02:29PM (#15925965)
1) Republican voter support is broad for net neutrality. Multiple sources have shown this pretty consistently.

2) The Republican deregulatory ideal (if it works at all) only works if competition exists. It doesn't. The market can only have a chance to work if it exists.

Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by Rapzid on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:14PM (#15926509)
On top of that republicans have been enforcing net neutrality for decades.
Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by spsful on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:54PM (#15926928)
Can you back that up with something specific? I'm Paul Ryan's party platform put out last year they specifically mentioned deregulating the internet. Not sure how you can overlook that
Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by fjabre on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:13PM (#15927670)
You do know that TCP/IP packet data delivery is handled by network protocol right? Protocol is designed to work, not to please Verizon lawyers.

Internet only works when neutral.

Here is your argument: Regulation bad - Deregulation good. Don't you think that's a bit overly simplistic?

What part of this are you missing? Either you have the Internet with protections in place or simply you don't have an Internet at all. Your world view is AOL and Compuserv. That's what a world without NN looks like.

Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by Delmania on Thursday December 14, 2017 @04:23PM (#15927199)
> On this one issue, it's possible they're even right.

IF there was competition. However, the ISPs have sought to end that.

Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by yndoendo on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:25PM (#15927777)
And when a market doesn't take care of itself the people are the ones to suffer, no matter which party they are part of or voted for.

Mortgage industry was self-regulated and politicians just balled out the bad actors.

It is about "finding" simple and reliable regulations, since there is no true "etched in stone" regulations.

Regulations have a shifting baseline. Say 100 fish are in a lake. Regulate that only 20 maybe harvest a year. This goes on for 10 years and in the 11th they are all gone. Write once regulations do not account for changes in the environment / market environment.

Re:F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules by debugxyz on Friday December 15, 2017 @02:43AM (#15930280)
A poll "found that 83 percent overall favored keeping the FCC rules, including 75 percent of Republicans"

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/364528-poll-83-percent-...