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Re:Estonia, the Digital Republic by sccxy on Monday December 11, 2017 @04:40PM (#15900733)
Most people who use ID card every day have updated certs remotely or went to police office. I would say government handled it pretty well.

Problematic was communication with card maker Gemalto, who didn't inform Estonia about security flaws properly. Gemalto was informed by researchers in March. These researchers informed Estonian government in August. Few days after that prime minister announced security problems.

Things would have been a lot of easier if Gemalto didn't hide the problem from the government.

Re:Estonia, the Digital Republic by adrianratnapala on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:15PM (#15901037)
Chances are that the contractual arrangements that routinely exist between governments and contractors like Gemalto make "blameless post mortems" non-profitable. It's a tricky thing to do right, because you do want to have accountability in the contract.

Governments (rightly) want contractors like this as experts-on-tap in the technology under consideration. But what you really want is not exactly a provider of the technology, but rather an advisor or partner in the process of implementing your process. I don't think we know how to structure a non-nepotistic relationship of that kind.

Re:Estonia, the Digital Republic by r00fus on Monday December 11, 2017 @07:57PM (#15902219)
That's usually why projects of this size have multiple parties involved aside from directly contracting with the vendor.

As much as it's easy to hate on the Big4 consulting companies, they exist for this reason among others (some of which have more to do with how to grease the skids with pork).

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Re:Estonia, the Digital Republic by akoncius on Monday December 11, 2017 @07:03PM (#15901960)
> The Soviet Socialist Republic of Estonia would have had access to some of the best, but not anymore.

wat

Re:Estonia, the Digital Republic by jpatokal on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @02:12AM (#15903604)
Estonia was a part of the Soviet Union, and the Soviets had some pretty good crypto by Cold War standards.
Re:Estonia, the Digital Republic by akoncius on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @05:44AM (#15904505)
yeah, and we see now how "democratic" is Russia now, so your observations about Soviet Union crypto specialists and this topic about Estonia's E-systems is totally unrelated.
Re:Estonia, the Digital Republic by sccxy on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @07:28AM (#15905102)
Sorry, but calling todays Estonia 'the soviet socialist republic' is just plain stupid.

I haven't heard that Germany is called former na%i state when refering to country.

Re:Estonia, the Digital Republic by _acme on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @02:06PM (#15908430)
Do you mean Nazi? At least in the US, it's legal to use that word.
Re:Estonia, the Digital Republic by sccxy on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @02:19PM (#15908562)
Comment was blacklisted when written with z.

Probably too many 'offensive' keywords.

Re:Estonia, the Digital Republic by thriftwy on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @03:02AM (#15903795)
Sovuets also had ever decreasing desire to do anything civilian.