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Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by Xeoncross on Friday December 08, 2017 @02:19PM (#15881163)
IPFS just keeps looking more and more useful. I'm starting to wonder about planning future text-rich applications (forums, news, blog, etc..) with article backups to IPFS and a link on the live site.

Would require extra storage and overhead, but the result is maybe even more helpful than a tor site for important content.

Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by HarfTarf on Friday December 08, 2017 @02:31PM (#15881278)
make no mistake: ipfs _by_itself_ is no more "anonymous" than torrenting or other types of file sharing ftp/sftp/ssh/http/whatever...

because they can always get your ip address.

You will need to use some other method if you want anonymity.

Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by Xeoncross on Friday December 08, 2017 @02:41PM (#15881366)
Sorry, the reference to Tor is misleading. I was not referring to anonymity but rather access to content from restricted areas like the Middle East or Asia.
Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by HarfTarf on Friday December 08, 2017 @03:49PM (#15881917)
In that sense, I would agree, ipfs can provide access to content that would otherwise be blocked.
Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by mtgx on Friday December 08, 2017 @05:23PM (#15882607)
Could ISPs throttle IPFS content the same way they did with torrents a while ago? (and probably will again once net neutrality falls).
Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by lgierth on Friday December 08, 2017 @05:36PM (#15882702)
Sure -- but libp2p's network transports underneath are pluggable. There's already Websockets (/ws, think domain fronting! [1]) and Tor (/onion) transports, so there's various options for evading censorship (I personally consider bandwidth throttling a form of censorship).

[1] Domain fronting lets you use a well-established web frontend for your web service. E.g. we could host /ws nodes in Google Cloud, and to the ISP the TLS handshake looks like it's for google.com, while inside the connection there's e.g. a `Host: libp2p.googlecloud.com` header. More info: https://www.bamsoftware.com/papers/fronting/

But then again, net neutrality is a political issue! You don't solve it for good with technology.

Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by KirinDave on Friday December 08, 2017 @03:17PM (#15881660)
The real challenge to this is negotiating pinning without it being exploitable by third parties.
Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by Xeoncross on Friday December 08, 2017 @03:31PM (#15881781)
Is there where a third party node can spoof (or lie about) the content belonging to a pin to clients that ask it?
Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by Crespyl on Friday December 08, 2017 @03:47PM (#15881904)
Since IPFS is based on content addressing, if a node tries to spoof a piece of content, any peers trying to fetch from the malicious node will immediately see that the content provided does not match the desired hash.

I'm not sure how peers handle that situation, I'd assume it'd be treated like wire corruption (retry) or give up and try to fetch from a different peer.

Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by cobookman on Friday December 08, 2017 @11:34PM (#15884311)
But that doesn't stop ddos attacks.
Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by brokenmachine on Monday December 11, 2017 @07:42PM (#15902164)
True, but a ddos also doesn't exactly mean the content is "exploitable".

I presume future clients would block nodes that share false content (if clients don't already).

Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by lgierth on Friday December 08, 2017 @04:26PM (#15882186)
Pins are something that's per-node, and whether a node has a specific piece of content pinned is not visible publicly (only that it's providing the content).
Re:IPFS Pubsub: Distributed named pubsub channels based in t... by velcro on Friday December 08, 2017 @02:29PM (#15881259)
as far as I know www.shiftnrg.org is building something along those lines... decentralised hosting on IPFS + custom DNS...