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Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by empath75 on Friday December 08, 2017 @09:56AM (#15878997)
It'll be interesting to see what happens when a few people own 90% of the bitcoin and everyone else just sort of shrugs and starts using a new cryptocurrency, instead.
Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by tCfD on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:04AM (#15879070)
Committed ideological Bitcoin supporters commonly believe in a network effect race condition spiral they call 'hyperbitcoinization' which models a world where a sort of event horizon in market adoption had been crossed, and everyone on Earth is forced to use bitcoin either directly or indirectly.

In this techno-feudalist scenario, being one of the Bitcoin 1% or even 10% means the world is at your feet, and if you've maintained good opsec, nobody may even know how much of their lives are your property.

Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by burger_moon on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:15AM (#15879163)
Reminds me of this satire post from reddit (4yrs old). https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lfobc/i_am_a_time...
Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by varjag on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:56AM (#15879542)
It correctly predicted BTC at $10k in 2017. So much for satire!
Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by qbrass on Friday December 08, 2017 @02:15PM (#15881126)
It also incorrectly predicted it from 2013-2017.
Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by FLUX-YOU on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:20AM (#15879208)
>and if you've maintained good opsec

Don't exchanges verify identity? Wouldn't you be committing fraud by maintaining good opsec?

Point being is that someone may eventually leak an exchange database with those details. Then the word's out. Kind of like Equifax.

Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by tCfD on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:28AM (#15879299)
If you subscribe to the Bitcoin in-universe dogma that views committing fraud and extortion as something that central banks and governments do, not what free market actors entering into voluntary contractual agreements with one another (which are regulated by math and logic spelled out in open source code) do, then maintaining good opsec is not just good business but a moral imperative.
Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by vidarh on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:52AM (#15879513)
Lets say you never maintain much in the exchange, and always tumble coins before moving them in/out.

It would certainly be possible to prove identity when transferring BTC in/out of an exchange, but make it exceedingly hard to prove that they ultimately make it to/from wallets you control.

But of course possible does not mean it is likely.

Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by randlet on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:02AM (#15879048)
This is what I don't understand. In the hypothetical case where we switch to using bitcoin won't early adopters be the only people with money? What about the 99.9(9?)% of the population who don't own any bitcoins?
Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by icebraining on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:10AM (#15879122)
How are you thinking the switch would occur? It's not like the "old" currencies will suddenly lose their value, you'll be able to exchange them for a long time.

Plus, most people don't own that much currency anyway; they either get a paycheck (which can start coming in BTC) or an asset like a house, which is valuable in any currency.

Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by randlet on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:40AM (#15879407)
When I said "only people with money" I meant "meaningful amount of money" but I can see what you're saying. I'm not sure what I'm struggling with about the concept...time for me to do some more reading / thinking.
Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by jerkstate on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:38AM (#15879383)
USD has already declined in value 3x over the past 6 weeks, compared to BTC
Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by fnovd on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:44AM (#15879439)
Everything has declined in value over the past 6 weeks compared to BTC.
Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by empath75 on Friday December 08, 2017 @01:38PM (#15880784)
The value of the dollar has declined a few hundred percent vs the price of nvidia stock in the past year, too. I'm not really sure that sort of comparison makes sense.
Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by devdas on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:13AM (#15879140)
Welcome to serfdom.
Re:The Bitcoin Whales: 1,000 People Who Own 40 Percent of th... by btbuildem on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:13AM (#15879150)
Wouldn't the same scenario play out with any other cryptocurrency? Early adopters will sit on the bulk of it.