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Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by bkohlmann on Saturday December 02, 2017 @05:29PM (#15834551)
It’s concerning that he wants to use the election judge role to “advance progressive causes.”

Election judges should be the most non-partisan role in government.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by beager on Saturday December 02, 2017 @11:17PM (#15835945)
> Garcia also tweeted, "My first act as an elected official is to call for the impeachment of Donald Trump and also now every Tuesday in Manayunk is officially Taco Tuesday."

I think your concern may be a little overblown.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by libria on Sunday December 03, 2017 @12:54AM (#15836181)
The full quote is

> "This actually will be a great way for me to be more involved in my neighborhood and work actively toward more progressive change," Garcia told The Hill.

Context seems to indicate he was serious about this statement.

His tweets are tongue-in-cheek but that's not a reason to dismiss everything he says in the article.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by amalcon on Saturday December 02, 2017 @10:36PM (#15835819)
He could plausibly mean "progressive causes" like making sure that people are not unlawfully prevented from voting. I'd surely ask him if I lived there, though.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by solotronics on Saturday December 02, 2017 @11:57PM (#15836034)
I am genuinely curious what is unlawfully preventing someone from voting?
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by amalcon on Sunday December 03, 2017 @08:12AM (#15837440)
So, dredmorbius has quite a list there, but those are things that would be outside the purview of an election judge. I was mainly referring to things like intimidation at the polling places (I know people who've experienced this) or removing relevant signage (which I've witnessed, and called the police).
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by dredmorbius on Sunday December 03, 2017 @12:18AM (#15836089)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_Unite...

1 Methods

1.1 Impediments to voter registration

1.2 Photo ID laws

1.3 Purging of voter rolls

1.4 Limitations on early voting

1.5 Felon disenfranchisement

1.6 Transgender disenfranchisement

1.7 Disinformation about voting procedures

1.8 Inequality in Election Day resources

1.9 Closure of DMV offices

1.10 Caging lists

1.11 Gerrymandering

1.12 Jim Crow laws

1.13 Off-year elections

https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/fighting-voter-sup...

In 2017, at least 99 bills that restrict access to registration and voting were introduced in 31 states. Thirty-two states have some form of voter ID law currently in effect. These ID laws don’t affect all people equally: people of color, low-income people, the elderly, students, and people with disabilities disproportionately lack the types of IDs that states deem acceptable.

http://projectcensored.org/the-right-to-vote-a-candid-histor...

In 2012, the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) influenced several states to pass restrictive voter ID laws, which particularly impacted low-income voters, people with disabilities, and voters of color. Electoral reform is needed, López reports. Elections and the fight for voting rights are tools to be used to bring about revolutionary change and real democracy for the multiracial working class.

There has not been any corporate media coverage of this story as of March 19, 2012.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/opinion/voter-suppression...

...The Ohio law removed voters from eligibility for sitting out three election cycles and failing to respond to a state warning that their eligibility was at risk; this was proof enough, the state said, that the voters had moved elsewhere. Ohio says the law is no more than housekeeping, an effort to tidy up the rolls, not voter suppression. But the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit ruled last September that it violated federal law protecting registrants who choose not to vote....

(One of several specific measures noted.)

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by desertrider12 on Sunday December 03, 2017 @12:32AM (#15836119)
More importantly, anti voter fraud laws are trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by ZenoArrow on Sunday December 03, 2017 @02:06AM (#15836406)
What do you mean by that statement? Are you suggesting voter fraud doesn't exist?
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by meowface on Sunday December 03, 2017 @02:09AM (#15836414)
It exists but is (currently) so rare that most of the solutions create far more problems than the actual problem itself.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by ZenoArrow on Sunday December 03, 2017 @07:50AM (#15837358)
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by dredmorbius on Sunday December 03, 2017 @08:16AM (#15837454)
I'd have to confirm, but I think most people consider "voter fraud" to be fraud conducted individually by voters. The claim that voter IDs are required is a putative measure against this. Thing is, that fraud is exceedingly expensive to conduct relative to impacts.

Voting machine hacks are wholesale to voter fraud's retail, and can swing far more votes, within or across multiple states. Systemic suppression methods, including role exclusion, gerrymandering, and the like, are also similarly far more efficient.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by digitalzombie on Sunday December 03, 2017 @03:32AM (#15836637)
It exist but it's not statistically significant enough. It certainly doesn't warrant the huge drawbacks of disinfranchising voters.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by thinkloop on Sunday December 03, 2017 @12:52AM (#15836172)
I'm not into vote manipulation tactics, but calling these unlawful is a partisan position, I don't believe they are officially illegal.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by dredmorbius on Sunday December 03, 2017 @01:08AM (#15836225)
Oddly enough, the mechanisms themselves are sharply partisan. I find the unilatirality of concern itself telling.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by thomas_howland on Sunday December 03, 2017 @12:54AM (#15836177)
Approximately zero of those are unlawful. "Off-year elections"? Really?

A high vote count is not an unmitigated good.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by dredmorbius on Sunday December 03, 2017 @01:06AM (#15836221)
Part of the problem is how solotronics phrased the question. Strictly speaking, until a method codified in law is ruled by courts to be unlawful, it is, in the strict definition of the word, legal.

Just as the suppression of votes by women, ownership rights of men over wives and children, sale of useless (or harmful) patent medicines, and the wholesale slaughter of Jews, Roma, homosexuals, the mentally retarded, and others in Germany in the 1930s-1940s was, in the strict sense, legal.

What is also the case, however, in the specific instance of the voter-suppression methods listed is:

1. That there is record of them being specifically adopted with the goal of dissuading specific elements of the public from voting.

2. That similar methods have previously been found unconstitutional and/or illegal.

A thing being "legal" is not the only test of its goodness. A thing being strictly legal today is not an assurance that it will be legal tomorrow. A thing having a history of strongly resembling tactics used to, and being specifically presented as a way of, disenfranchising voters in ways that have been found specifically unconstitutional also generally bodes poorly for it.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by walshemj on Saturday December 02, 2017 @06:01PM (#15834744)
Your correct it should be, as should all legal posts. In the UK the acting returning officer oversees th election in his/her constituency and they are often non voting (by tradition) civil servants as are the actual poling place staff.

There also a ban on any election material within a certain distance of a poling place though blank colours are allowed for poll watchers.

Reminds me I must see about volunteering for the next election

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by bkohlmann on Saturday December 02, 2017 @06:21PM (#15834870)
Curious as to the downvote. I’d love to see the argument for how partisan election judges serve our Republic.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by pvg on Sunday December 03, 2017 @12:40AM (#15836135)
The position and the execution of its duties is supposed to be impartial and non-partisan. There is no requirement at all that this also apply to the person elected or appointed to it. Few positions in government would be filled at all, if that were the case. We know the political affiliations of just about every judge on the federal bench, for instance.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by tdb7893 on Sunday December 03, 2017 @12:51AM (#15836166)
In this case the partisan cause is likely "have as many people be able to vote as possible". This is partisan because most people who get unintentionally disenfranchised are Democrats but the increase to franchise definitely does serve our Republic
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by PhasmaFelis on Saturday December 02, 2017 @11:06PM (#15835914)
For starters, he didn't actually say that. He said:

"This actually will be a great way for me to be more involved in my neighborhood and work actively toward more progressive change. I actually have a background in community organizing, and while I'm not entirely sure how this position could align with that, it seems like an opportunity to find some ways to at least more deeply connect with my neighbors."

He's talking about becoming more active in his community on a personal level.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by ceejayoz on Saturday December 02, 2017 @10:37PM (#15835821)
Given that he states he's instituting Taco Tuesday as one of his first acts, I'd suspect people are getting the vapors over a trivial joking statement.

I'd also imagine the powers of an election judge are pretty limited. It sounds like they're the Philly equivalent of the person who runs an individual polling place in NY. Not much wiggle room for causes of any sort.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by mattybrennan on Sunday December 03, 2017 @02:14AM (#15836437)
It's not weird that an elected official wants to advance their agenda. What's weird is that precinct judge is an elected position in Philadelphia.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by PhasmaFelis on Saturday December 02, 2017 @11:08PM (#15835919)
> It’s concerning that he wants to use the election judge role to “advance progressive causes.”

He didn't say that.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by khedoros1 on Sunday December 03, 2017 @02:47AM (#15836513)
> "This actually will be a great way for me to be more involved in my neighborhood and work actively toward more progressive change," Garcia told The Hill.

And the other similar wording doesn't quite match "advance progressive causes", and sounds like commentary by the newspaper itself:

> Garcia is hopeful that the position will allow for pursuing progressive goals for the district through community organizing.

Still, I wonder why you'd think the "work actively toward more progressive change" quote couldn't be paraphrased as “advance progressive causes.”

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by PhasmaFelis on Sunday December 03, 2017 @07:53AM (#15837372)
> Still, I wonder why you'd think the "work actively toward more progressive change" quote couldn't be paraphrased as “advance progressive causes.”

But my real objection was the preceding bit, "he wants to use the election judge role to..."

The full quote continues "I actually have a background in community organizing, and while I'm not entirely sure how this position could align with that, it seems like an opportunity to find some ways to at least more deeply connect with my neighbors." It seems clear to me that he's talking about being more active in his community on a personal level, not contemplating electoral fraud.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by bsder on Saturday December 02, 2017 @08:25PM (#15835458)
While I think this is mostly him having a good natured ribbing, let's assume he is serious for hypothetical argument ...

You know what, I'm really tired of this. This idea that a role is "non-partisan" is hogwash and has NEVER reflected reality.

Even worse, the Republicans do NOT believe this, and they utilize every single advantage to a position in order to advance their agenda.

These kinds of false equivalencies that somehow the left is required to take the "high road" and remain hamstrung while the right can punch below the belt all they want must die.

Sometimes you have to punch a bully to get the message through. It's time for the right to meet the fist of the left.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by lamarpye on Saturday December 02, 2017 @10:50PM (#15835858)
Some Democrats use every trick in the book too:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign...

In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago's gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.

As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.

The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.

Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by ggg9990 on Saturday December 02, 2017 @11:22PM (#15835951)
In JFK's first primary election one of his opponents was one Joseph Russo. JFK's father Joe hired another guy named Joseph Russo to run and split the vote. Dirty trick but it didn't end up mattering as the two Russos combined would not have defeated JFK.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by emodendroket on Saturday December 02, 2017 @11:58PM (#15836038)
I don't feel like what happened in the 1960s is the most salient thing to consider when you take into account that the effort to suppress the vote has been overwhelmingly Republican in the past few decades and has picked up with the Supreme Court striking down parts of the Voting Rights Acts.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by ggg9990 on Sunday December 03, 2017 @12:08AM (#15836066)
never said it was the "most salient thing to consider." It's an interesting historical anecdote.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by jakeogh on Sunday December 03, 2017 @02:27AM (#15836470)
His dad apparently made a few powerful enemies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-EBGYF8XLQ
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by beager on Saturday December 02, 2017 @11:04PM (#15835905)
"that makes him smart"
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by lamarpye on Saturday December 02, 2017 @11:14PM (#15835938)
Indeed it does. Although to be fair, he probably didn't know about it until he read about it in the paper.
Re:Philadelphia write-in candidate: I won with one vote by ringaroundthetx on Saturday December 02, 2017 @05:46PM (#15834659)
two votes to get him impeached, after getting 20 signatures