Re:SoftBank said to be trying to buy a big stake in Uber at ...
by dopamean on Monday November 27, 2017 @07:59PM
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What is the justification for saying that new shares are worth more than existing ones?
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Re:SoftBank said to be trying to buy a big stake in Uber at ...
by btilly on Monday November 27, 2017 @08:12PM
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One justification is that spending on new shares gives them a higher return than spending on old.
When you spend on old, someone with no further interest in Uber has money in their pocket.
When you create new ones, you've just injected money into Uber, which increases its likelihood of survival.
If they are buying enough to get control, they can now choose to spend that $1 billion in ways that channel money back into other companies that they own. Thereby further reducing the cost to them of providing that money. (Presumably, though, the money channeled back will be for products that help Uber. This looks like a shell game but isn't.)
Re:SoftBank said to be trying to buy a big stake in Uber at ...
by teemwerk on Monday November 27, 2017 @08:56PM
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I don't want to spam this article all over, but Matt Levine, also at Bloomberg, I felt had a much better overview of that question almost verbatim, plus imo he's an excellent writer.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-11-16/softbank-...
Re:SoftBank said to be trying to buy a big stake in Uber at ...
by dopamean on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @11:01AM
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This was a great read. Thanks for sharing it. Levine is a super talented writer.
Re:SoftBank said to be trying to buy a big stake in Uber at ...
by snaily on Monday November 27, 2017 @08:06PM
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The new ones are presumably the most senior class, and would likely come with rights such as liquidation preferences that would make them have a higher expected value (in the eyes of Softback).
Re:SoftBank said to be trying to buy a big stake in Uber at ...
by sethev on Monday November 27, 2017 @08:11PM
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There doesn't have to be any justification. Maybe they're hoping enough early investors want to lock-in their paper profits that they'll accept the offer.
Re:SoftBank said to be trying to buy a big stake in Uber at ...
by fjni on Monday November 27, 2017 @08:03PM
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I’d guess liquidation preference for the newly issued shares.
Re:SoftBank said to be trying to buy a big stake in Uber at ...
by IncRnd on Monday November 27, 2017 @09:30PM
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One is an investment and infusion of capital. The other is purchasing somebody else's investment that doesn't do anything for the company's cash.
Re:SoftBank said to be trying to buy a big stake in Uber at ...
by mattnewton on Monday November 27, 2017 @08:03PM
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Pretending real hard this isn’t a down round?
Re:SoftBank said to be trying to buy a big stake in Uber at ...
by nwatson on Monday November 27, 2017 @08:03PM
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Maybe they figure early institutional investors with Series A, B, C, ... realize their shares will lose out in a liquidity event to preferential treatment for those with later shares, and so will be willing to sell their early shares for less.