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Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by TekMol on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:15AM (#15739965)
By the way, what is up with Bitcoin? Why did it rise 10x this year?
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by thaumaturgy on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:18AM (#15739986)
Because I haven't had any money in it for most of the year.

The couple of times I did have money in it -- for up to two months at a time -- it either fell slightly overall or stayed fairly flat. As soon as I sold, it jumped back up again.

I'm currently accepting offers from Bitcoin investors to prevent me from buying back in again.

Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by quickthrower2 on Thursday November 23, 2017 @05:42AM (#15764223)
The trick with Bitcoin is to do fuck all. Buy and forget. Come back in 10 yrs.
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by nathan_f77 on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:46AM (#15740158)
I would really like to read a well-researched answer to this question. I've heard various theories around instability in Puerto Rico, and people using it to move money out of China. I have no idea if there's any evidence to support those theories.

I really want to understand some of the economics behind the value of a Bitcoin. Some people say that it's actually worthless, but that can't be true. It lets people move practically unlimited amounts of money anywhere in the world for a relatively small fee. It also provides immutable data that can be used to verify records.

I actually spent this weekend adding blockchain verification to my document generation service [1]. It was actually pretty amazing to look at a Bitcoin transaction [2], and realize that this data has so much authenticity and permanence. Not only does it guarantee that my document existed at a certain point in time, but that hash will probably be preserved in the blockchain for the rest of human history.

That one bitcoin transaction cost a lot of money (0.000846 BTC, or $6.95 USD), but it verifies a large number of records by using a merkle tree. [3]

I have no idea how these fees relate to the fiat price, but that must be one factor. Also the price of electricity around the world. There's a lot of speculation and "tulip mania" too, but even if you ignore all of that, I think it's a very interesting thing to research.

[1] https://formapi.io/

[2] https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/4dc1ef829128355fdbbf3afb...

[3] https://chainpoint.org/

Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by asciimo on Monday November 20, 2017 @11:27AM (#15741067)
The fee size is relative to the amount of competition to get transactions into the next block. Because the block size has been capped at 1MB, not every transaction in the preceding 10 minutes will fit. So miners sort by the fees attached to the transactions when selecting them. (I think the block size is supposed to be increased to 2MB shortly, if it hasn't already.)
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by solotronics on Monday November 20, 2017 @12:13PM (#15741424)
yesterday I did a transaction in one 10 minute block with a fee of $0.70
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by fastball on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:19AM (#15739995)
As an outsider looking in, it seems like every time something negative happens to BTC, if the ramifications weren't as bad as everyone was expecting the market resurges twofold.

In the case of this year, there was the major shenanigans with the hard fork from just BTC to BTC / BCH, as well as some heightened cryptocurrency crackdowns in China.

Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by AznHisoka on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:38AM (#15740106)
Because Bitcoin holders, psychologically (not politically!) are like Trump supporters before the election.

The more negativity/naysers there are, the more stubbornly they continue to hold to prove the elite financial world they are wrong.

Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by rplnt on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:19AM (#15739988)
Higher general awareness would be my guess? Regular-money people start to invest. Too bad it only works as an investment and not something useful (considering how much energy is wasted on it).
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by AznHisoka on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:47AM (#15740176)
It would be cool if all those miners were also solving a puzzle that incidentally would help cure some disease, or figure out how to beat the speed of light.
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by jacobush on Monday November 20, 2017 @10:15AM (#15740433)
Or figure out how to make faster DRAM. (Cuckoo Cycle algorithm.) Incidentally, faster than light communication might increase speed of memory, right?
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by wolco on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:36AM (#15740090)
A lot of people are using it for payments.
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by rplnt on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:42AM (#15740131)
For other currencies, sure. But minority of moved value would be used to pay for goods/services. Also, isn't the fee extremely high right now?
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by wolco on Monday November 20, 2017 @10:22AM (#15740479)
It's around 10 dollars. A lot of retailers offer a discount (because each credit card transaction costs them 5%).

If your purchase is high enough it makes sense. Would not make sense for micro transactions

Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by solotronics on Monday November 20, 2017 @12:14PM (#15741438)
not true currently
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by uberrr on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:49AM (#15740188)
It’s in no small part due to massive ICO events where spin-off coins with no utility and no actual value generate millions and millions of dollars in imaginary value through pump and dump schemes, because there’s no realistic way to short sell them and everyone involved has a vested interest in the price rising.
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by ohhhlol on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:52AM (#15740213)
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by pmorici on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:20AM (#15739998)
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactions.ht...

Massive transaction growth, a proxy for user adoption, since the Dec. 2013 crash. That lead to steady growth until this spring when Core's no block increase ever policy stunted adoption but by then the bubble had already started to form. you are seeing a bunch of clueless new folks fomo into the crypto space right now. I would be surprised if we aren't entering the blow off top phase. There was just a ~50% movement in a matter of a week. Bitcoin Cash is probably the true Bitcoin long term that is where I'm moving my money.

* Also significant unease over USDT Tether scheme among the wider community could lead to a second Gox like situation

Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by tboyd47 on Monday November 20, 2017 @10:56AM (#15740785)
More or less continuous increase in demand along with constant supply.
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by rb808 on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:48AM (#15740179)
Dont ask questions - just buy more!!! (which is also the answer)
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by equalarrow on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:59AM (#15740286)
Simple: institutional validation. CME is just the beginning.

Big players with billions are now just waiting for the right time to jump in. We’re at that time.

Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by NicoJuicy on Monday November 20, 2017 @11:01AM (#15740835)
Because it emulates gold somewhat, scarcity ( not much BTC left ) and a high demand.
Re:Show HN: Coinmon – Check Bitcoin Prices in Terminal by kakarot on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:19AM (#15739987)
It's been doing that for years.