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Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by mseebach on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:49AM (#15720282)
The Kindle and it's e-reader kin are pretty successful?

I think the problem is that a device with an e-ink display is necessarily single purpose. General purpose devices can't use e-ink, they need to support video playback and browsers with full colour.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by Andrenid on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:57AM (#15720324)
I'd love an e-ink dashboard in my car so it's not so glary, e-ink tablet that does a bit more than a Kindle but isn't a full media player (super thin super light with basic browser for wiki, news, rss, and email), ~20" e-ink screen on the inside of my apartment door with calendar and notifications and todolist, there's so many cool things we could do with the tech if we could produce it cheaper and bigger. Not everything needs to be able to play video.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by SteveMoody73 on Friday November 17, 2017 @05:51AM (#15720908)
Have you seen reMarkable? Doesn't seem to have a browser from what I can see but more capable than a kindle.

https://remarkable.com/

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by michaelmior on Friday November 17, 2017 @08:26AM (#15721753)
I got mine a few weeks ago. It's true there's no browser but the note-taking capabilities are great. It's running Linux so I can only assuming it's a matter of time before someone starts releasing some custom updates.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by mattferderer on Friday November 17, 2017 @10:06AM (#15722476)
I was looking into this a while back. Would love to hear more reviews on it. The ability to write notes with a pen is the one feature I wish my Kindle had. The Kindle is a great device for reading, bookmarking & highlighting but you can't write in the margins... When I first seen this I was hoping the next version of Kindle would try to accomplish this for the holiday season but unfortunately they did not.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by mycat on Saturday November 18, 2017 @12:01AM (#15727841)
How does it compare with Sony's e ink tablet with stylus? Seems too similar except it is made by startup
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by oeuviz on Friday November 17, 2017 @04:58AM (#15720642)
I'd really love that too! And if it was for color, I would really appreaciate a photoframe as I just think a backlight is not needed for these things and is just annoying at night. I really do not care about video, most relevant content is pretty static and does not even require the already possible 4-5 changes per second.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by avar on Friday November 17, 2017 @04:00AM (#15720346)
That's the GP's point. Of course the update rate sucks because enough research hasn't been put into it.

There are already E-Ink displays with much a faster update rate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsY3T1uzjAI

Who knows how much faster this could get with enough investment? Unless there's some fundamental physical limitation to the update rate that I'm not aware of.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by IshKebab on Friday November 17, 2017 @04:17AM (#15720432)
Ha that video is not a fast update rate. It's just only updating a small bit of the screen at a time so you can't really see the slowness. Modern kindles are pretty fast but not video speed, and they still have to blank the screen after a few updates.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by avar on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:42AM (#15721516)
Yes, obviously I'm not going to be linking to a video showing a technology that doesn't exist yet.

The video serves to demonstrate that given some technological development the entire screen could be like that, and aside from that there are E-Ink screens in common use that can't refresh even such a small area that fast.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by mavhc on Friday November 17, 2017 @08:27AM (#15721766)
A technical video about eink, reprogramming the firmware etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsbiO8EAsGw
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by j_s on Friday November 17, 2017 @10:38AM (#15722788)
It's unfortunate that so much of this specific content is locked up as video. The part is $35 shipped on AliExpress, a great way to begin experimenting.
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by mavhc on Sunday November 19, 2017 @09:31AM (#15734012)
Unedited video is the fastest kind of content to produce, and the slowest to consume.

Edited video is the slowest kind of content to produce.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by j_s on Sunday November 19, 2017 @11:20AM (#15734458)
Unfortunately for me even edited video is still tougher to consume than the written word, when it comes to technical​ content.

I have a much easier time digesting information​ at my own pace.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by teddyh on Friday November 17, 2017 @09:41AM (#15722276)
I prefer this video, showing someone playing Wipeout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH0wAmMbFgI#t=1m37s
Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by r3bl on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:54AM (#15721573)
Imagine a table with an e-ink display that can show you whatever you want them to show you.

Imagine reading news above your sink while doing the dishes.

Imagine the entire walls constructed with e-ink displays in your home and being able to change the wallpapers in your living room depending on what's currently in your mind.

All of those could have a "read-only" mode until you push a button, they would use pretty much no electricity, and would ideally be water-proof.

Instead, what I have right now, is an e-book reader. Which is nice and all. I'm often sending articles to my Kindle (kudos https://p2k.co/) and all sorts of things, but I had much higher hopes from e-ink technology (and still kind of do). The hope of having my home filled with e-ink displays is much greater than having a home filled with sensors.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by marcosdumay on Friday November 17, 2017 @08:23AM (#15721731)
E-ink isn't good enough for any of those yet.

I don't know how much research is ongoing into it, and I do think it's underutilized (I can't understand why smart watches use LCDs), but there are many breakthroughs before we can get those things you mention.

I still expect it to get all over the world, eventually.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by mcphage on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:18PM (#15725101)
> I can't understand why smart watches use LCDs

Refresh rate. If all a smart watch did was be a watch, it would be sufficient, but there would be no reason for it to exist. Once you want it to do non-watch things, you need a better refresh rate.

Re:Ask HN: What tech were you convinced would take the world... by marcosdumay on Saturday November 18, 2017 @10:21AM (#15729267)
Ok, I don't know all that a watch is expected to do because I don't own one. But AFAIK, messages, fitness tracking, and remote controls do not need anything above what some e-paper can get you.

Now (after some time to think) I do think it's mostly a design restriction. Nobody was able to make an e-paper watch look futuristic and expensive.