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Re:Why Ageism Never Gets Old by Nursie on Thursday November 16, 2017 @07:30AM (#15712136)
I've worked in C, embedded and server-side, for about 15 years of my 17 year career. Companies I've worked with recently are having trouble finding C-capable developers, particularly C developers who have the first clue about 'modern' developments like CI and CD, or git.

C is a language invented in the 70s. If you kept up with thread APIS when they became usable in the late 90s you could quite easily have had a 40 year career in one tech stack, and be looking at a bit of consultancy by now (if you haven't moved in to management or other areas).

So even without keeping current on frameworks and languages, the idea that knowledge becomes obsolete in our field after just a few years is wrong. You do need to keep an eye on wider trends and newer tools, but still.

That said, there is still ageism in this arena. And I'm breaking out because, really, there are better things to be doing in 2017 :)

Re:Why Ageism Never Gets Old by ryandrake on Thursday November 16, 2017 @07:58AM (#15712276)
> Companies I've worked with recently are having trouble finding C-capable developers, particularly C developers who have the first clue about 'modern' developments like CI and CD, or git.

As is always the case when a claim is made about "companies having trouble finding developers" of some sort: Are they actually having trouble finding developers despite offering top-of-market salary, remote work and gold plated benefits? Or are they the usual "we think we offer above average salary with great benefits!" companies who get no interest from developers and conclude there's a shortage?

Re:Why Ageism Never Gets Old by Nursie on Thursday November 16, 2017 @08:12AM (#15712353)
Honestly I don't know, I'm a contractor and the place I'm just finishing with now is having trouble. The pay on offer for permanent staff here could well be terrible. The work certainly is, which is why I'm moving on.

I tend to agree with your viewpoint, particularly when it comes to arguments about the need to mass-import developers from overseas. Are you struggling to recruit due to a genuine shortage? Or are you trying to get people with good experience to work for you for £30K pa?

Re:Why Ageism Never Gets Old by ryandrake on Thursday November 16, 2017 @08:16AM (#15712381)
Yup--my guess is that most companies complaining about a shortage of talent can be addressed with: "Well, you offer terrible work and/or terrible pay. What do you expect?"
Re:Why Ageism Never Gets Old by fjsolwmv on Thursday November 16, 2017 @05:58PM (#15717483)
Paying more isn't really a global answer. Sure, I can pay more to grab you from someone else but then that other employer is short staff. Remote work may be answer for connecting lonely employees and employers, but remote work has its difficulties.
Re:Why Ageism Never Gets Old by Nursie on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:06AM (#15720978)
It depends - in the UK in particular a lot of salaries for tech folk are very low. So those with smarts and ambition either leave the country or head into (middle-)management hell.

A few more well=-paid positions might make a difference to the perceived value of technical staff in the country's small to medium businesses.

Re:Why Ageism Never Gets Old by rakete on Thursday November 16, 2017 @03:52PM (#15716509)
Would you mind sharing some contact information for these companies looking for C developers? I have been working as a contractor myself and while I currently seem to have no problem finding projects involving javascript, companies actively looking for C developers seem to be little shy in my area.

I suspect you are from the US, and I am from Europe, so this might be a problem. But still, if you are willing to write me an email, my address can be found through my github account that is linked in my profile.

Re:Why Ageism Never Gets Old by Nursie on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:12AM (#15721004)
I'm based in the southern UK right now, and a place I am leaving today is looking for C folks. They seem open to contracts. The work is not that interesting, being mostly small pieces of maintenance. The money is OK though.

If that's interesting, reply in the positive here and I'll ping you the details of the company and the agency I've been working through. They have a bunch of people from around Europe, and AFAICT one travels in from Germany each week.

Re:Why Ageism Never Gets Old by rakete on Friday November 17, 2017 @11:37AM (#15723469)
Sure, that sounds interesting, and I guess just asking is not going to hurt anyone. Since I am from northern Germany southern UK should not be completely impossible to reach.
Re:Why Ageism Never Gets Old by BatFastard on Thursday November 16, 2017 @07:48AM (#15712226)
Such as?
Re:Why Ageism Never Gets Old by Nursie on Thursday November 16, 2017 @08:14AM (#15712368)
Honestly? I've had more fun coding Java (8) and Python lately, for server-side stuff. I'd also like to get paid to do some Rust and/or Go at some point.

It's all subjective, of course, and partly I'm just bored of doing the same thing for so long.