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Re:Debian and GNOME announce plans to migrate communities to... by camgunz on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @08:44AM (#15703632)
How much do you really care if their marketing department is aggressive? Isn't it better that GitLab is open source and a reasonably good member of the OSS community? Honestly I don't even count those stats as false; Jenkins feels super old and the context weirdness ("Not every enterprise self-hosts a git repository") actually makes sense. If this is the trade to support OSS, it's way better than building a shadow surveillance state under the guise of profit via advertising revenue.
Re:Debian and GNOME announce plans to migrate communities to... by sandworm101 on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @09:14AM (#15703823)
>>> if their marketing department is aggressive?

Telling lies /= aggressive. Where advertising makes claims that are objectively false they should be called out. This isn't 'puffing' or hyperbolic opinion. This is saying X is Y. That these lies are in support of an agenda with which many here might agree does not matter.

Re:Debian and GNOME announce plans to migrate communities to... by dominotw on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @09:37AM (#15703994)
yea brushing it off as "aggressive" is ironic Considering how their CEO goes around touting honesty as one their main traits[1] as a company.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15589654

Re:Debian and GNOME announce plans to migrate communities to... by RadioactiveMan on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @03:20PM (#15707379)
It's not a lie. They linked right to an elaboration of that statement.
Re:Debian and GNOME announce plans to migrate communities to... by kelnos on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @03:39PM (#15707520)
Sure, but the link text is deliberately misleading. The stat "3/4 of all enterprises", on its own, is patently false. The fact that you can click the link to "fix" the lie is irrelevant.
Re:Debian and GNOME announce plans to migrate communities to... by cisanti on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @09:19AM (#15703845)
Sorry to burst your bubble but advertising is always lying and shilling.
Re:Debian and GNOME announce plans to migrate communities to... by rkangel on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @09:33AM (#15703960)
No, it's really not.

Pages I have open:

In the jobs boxout on StackOverflow I'm pretty confident that McLaren Applied Technologies is looking a lead C#/.NET developer.

On another page, the UK Mobile network '3' is offering 12Gb for the price of 4Gb. I know that's true because I took them up on it (and even for 4Gb it's still cheaper than any other network).

I could provide many other counter-examples but I don't need to because you used 'always' in your absolutist statement. Yes, a lot of advertising twists the truth. No, not everything does. And for things that we hold to a higher standard (like a great open source project like Gitlab) we can point out places where they don't meet that standard in the (not unrealistic) hope that they'll improve.

Re:Debian and GNOME announce plans to migrate communities to... by asfdsfggtfd on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @10:10AM (#15704267)
> I'm pretty confident that McLaren Applied Technologies is looking a lead C#/.NET developer.

Are you certain? Maybe they have an internal promotion but company policy/legal compliance forces them to advertise the role publicly?

> On another page, the UK Mobile network '3' is offering 12Gb for the price of 4Gb. I know that's true because I took them up on it (and even for 4Gb it's still cheaper than any other network).

How long for? Is this one of those contracts where it is 3 for 1 for a year then double price next year...

NB I'm absolutely not accusing either of these specific companies of being dishonest.

Re:Debian and GNOME announce plans to migrate communities to... by Xylakant on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @09:20AM (#15703859)
That makes it even more important to call it out.
Re:Debian and GNOME announce plans to migrate communities to... by seqastian on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @09:19AM (#15703849)
pretending everything is black and white and painting everyone who makes a non complete statement as liar, is what lead to the current political misery.
Re:Debian and GNOME announce plans to migrate communities to... by dominotw on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @09:33AM (#15703964)
> what lead to the current political misery.

Oh no. Not this shit again!.

Not every story has to have some sort of philosophical link to trump winning the election.