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Re:All about whiteboard markers by f_allwein on Friday November 10, 2017 @06:36PM (#15674012)
Side point: can I suggest we all throw away whiteboard markers that don't work any more? In my experience, people will just place them back in the tray and keep trying other markers until they find one that works. There is probably someone whose job it is to replace markers, but they would just replace missing ones rather than try every single one to see if they still work. So throwing away dead markers speeds up the process.

Or use refillable markers, of course.

Re:All about whiteboard markers by jdblair on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:23PM (#15674651)
JDB's Whiteboard Marker Org Health Metric: The ratio of dead whiteboard markers to working whiteboard markers at an organization is proportional to the health of the workplace culture.

Lots of dried out markers signal a workplace culture where people are too lazy to throw the markers out and replace them or where working markers are not available (possible money issues).

Re:All about whiteboard markers by dfee on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:38PM (#15674697)
This is a neat idea. I tried to Google it to get the full thesis, but it turned up nothing. I then realized you were quoting yourself in the third person.

This could also be a good test for interviewers: do they toss the dead whiteboard marker in the trash, or put it back in the bin. Though, that could also correlate with self-confidence.

Re:All about whiteboard markers by JBlue42 on Friday November 10, 2017 @10:03PM (#15674769)
I wonder if that correlates with my theory on companies that buy cheap/thin toilet paper and their treatment of employees.
Re:All about whiteboard markers by jdblair on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:27PM (#15674663)
Corollary: if you are interviewing for a job and there are lots of dried out markers you may not want to work at the company.
Re:All about whiteboard markers by kinkrtyavimoodh on Saturday November 11, 2017 @02:20AM (#15675344)
Great, because the whole hiring process needed another voodoo variable.
Re:All about whiteboard markers by QAPereo on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:52PM (#15674739)
Sort of a modified “dirty bathroom” principle for restaurants.
Re:All about whiteboard markers by Terr_ on Friday November 10, 2017 @07:52PM (#15674353)
"Woo hoo-hoo, looks who knows so much, huh? Well, it just so happens that your marker here is only mostly-dead. There's a big difference between mostly-dead and all-dead."

"Now, mostly-dead, it's slightly useful. Now, all-dead... well, with all-dead, there's usually only one thing you can do: Join them all together to create a modular lightsaber."

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I think all-dead markers aren't a big problem, what you have to watch out for are teh mostly-dead ones, which tend to stick around "just in case the good one isn't available."

Re:All about whiteboard markers by Bromskloss on Friday November 10, 2017 @07:25PM (#15674237)
Got it. Whenever we come across a dead marker, we throw the board away and get a blackboard instead!

About that, could we have a similar article on blackboards and chalk? All I know is that there was much ado [0,1,2] about a certain Japanese manufacturer shutting down a couple of years ago. They, allegedly, made the best chalk and prices on the secondary market rose high after the news came out.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/3a05u3/why_mathematic... [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/3axqxe/hagoromo_presi... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/3rciv0/an_update_on_w...

Re:All about whiteboard markers by adrianN on Friday November 10, 2017 @11:50PM (#15675037)
I found this video very interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCroFiwllH8
Re:All about whiteboard markers by algeom on Friday November 10, 2017 @07:55PM (#15674366)
I bought a 20 year supply of that chalk when the demise of Hagoromo was announced, but it turns out that production of that particular product was turned over to a Korean company. I’m still using my legacy supply, so I can’t comment first-hand on old/new comparisons, but I haven’t heard any complaints.
Re:All about whiteboard markers by Kluny on Saturday November 11, 2017 @01:01AM (#15675199)
How much is a 20 year supply?
Re:All about whiteboard markers by amluto on Friday November 10, 2017 @11:15PM (#15674965)
I used to have the pleasure of working in an office with genuine slate blackboards. They were very pleasant to write on (the chalk seemed to need less pressure to make a nice line and they always cleaned up perfectly), but using them was rather dusty.
Re:All about whiteboard markers by Bromskloss on Saturday November 11, 2017 @06:06AM (#15675852)
Is that a board made of a single piece of slate? How large can those be made?
Re:All about whiteboard markers by bikenaga on Saturday November 11, 2017 @01:35PM (#15677464)
The largest boards in our building look like they're around 5' x 8-10'.
Re:All about whiteboard markers by NegativeLatency on Friday November 10, 2017 @07:52PM (#15674352)
Also the new chalk that makes dust that is safer to breathe doesn't write as well as the older kind that is bad for your lungs.

Very similar to leaded/unleaded solder.

Re:All about whiteboard markers by jacobolus on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:04PM (#15674589)
Leaded solder is actually generally better for your health (just don’t eat it). The unleaded stuff has really nasty flux, and requires much higher temperatures, meaning the fumes are quite a bit worse. Make sure you have very good ventilation when working with unleaded solder.
Re:All about whiteboard markers by analog31 on Friday November 10, 2017 @10:11PM (#15674797)
Completely as an aside to the thread, if you're doing this a lot, try Kester K100 alloy, which is much lower melting than the first generation Pb-free, and behaves a lot more nicely. Not like genuine PbSn, but closer. Techni-Tool has spools of it in different diameters.
Re:All about whiteboard markers by jcrawfordor on Saturday November 11, 2017 @01:41AM (#15675271)
I'm very aggressive about discarding any dead whiteboard marker we have at work. We have plenty of money to buy replacement markers, and indeed the copy room has several boxes of them sitting there already. So if a marker is starting to die it goes right in the trash.

It's funny the reaction this gets. Some people seem almost offended that I would destroy office property or something like that. Look, non-refillable markers of the type we use (Expo) are an expendable item. Keeping bad ones around just produces irritation for everyone down the line.

Re:All about whiteboard markers by xaedes on Sunday November 12, 2017 @08:24AM (#15680768)
In my experience the others just are relieved that someone puts an end to the miserable writing they are getting used to over time, especially when seeing the new fresh, thick, vibrant lines!
Re:All about whiteboard markers by mcphage on Saturday November 11, 2017 @11:19AM (#15676880)
I make it a point to deliberately throw dead/dying markers into the corner when I come across them... otherwise they stay in circulation and annoy everyone constantly.
Re:All about whiteboard markers by sanbor on Friday November 10, 2017 @09:10PM (#15674605)
In the Expo FAQ [1] they suggest to try to bring it back to life by putting the cap back and leaving it vertically positioned, tip down for 24 hours. If it get back to life store it horizontally.

[1] http://www.expomarkers.com/faq.html

Re:All about whiteboard markers by xaedes on Sunday November 12, 2017 @08:22AM (#15680762)
Whenever I find a poorly writing marker somewhere I just throw it away (and replace it with one of the extra spares I keep for these cases). Everybody is always just relieved and happy with that - no complaints.