iPhone X Teardown

Re:iPhone X Teardown by damnyou on Friday November 03, 2017 @07:27PM (#15622922)

iOS is a toy OS. The notifications alone make it useless for office productivity. The limitations on background processing break, say, Plex or Netflix sync. You can't watch a YouTube video while doing something else. Apps like FB Messenger can't display useful overlays on the screen. You can't even do basic things like set a system-wide default browser.

Android O is light years ahead of iOS.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by Tehnix on Friday November 03, 2017 @08:18PM (#15623116)

> The limitations on background processing break, say, Plex or Netflix

You can quit e easily watch Plex (can’t remember if Netflix bothered) in the background while doing other shut with the PIP.

> you can’t watch a YouTube video either.

Which is YouTube’s fault ENTITELY. They are pushing YouTube red to allow for this (which isn’t even available in a lot of countries they advertise it in....)

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by damnyou on Friday November 03, 2017 @10:15PM (#15623474)

I said Plex or Netflix sync specifically. Having to keep the app open while a 20 minute sync is going on is bone-headed.

PIP is not available on an iPhone.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by ggg9990 on Friday November 03, 2017 @09:38PM (#15623388)

The limitations on background processing are exactly why I prefer iOS. When something is acting funny, the foreground app is always the culprit, and killing it fixes the problem. I don't want to do any more complicated debugging than that on a four inch touchscreen.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by threeseed on Friday November 03, 2017 @08:22PM (#15623135)

1) The limitations on background processing are deliberate to prevent applications from needlessly consuming battery life/mobile data.

2) It is Google's fault that you can't watch YouTube whilst doing something else. Apple provided an API which third party YouTube clients already support.

You can debate whether Android O is better or not. But I would hardly call iOS a toy just because it doesn't allow for rich notifications.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by damnyou on Friday November 03, 2017 @10:15PM (#15623477)

You can't do PIP on an iPhone.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by xxpor on Friday November 03, 2017 @08:22PM (#15623131)

>Apps like FB Messenger can't display useful overlays on the screen.

This is a feature, not a bug.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by Bahamut on Friday November 03, 2017 @10:04PM (#15623454)

That is something I don’t miss at all from Android after abandoning Android for iOS 3 years ago (Samsung started locking down their phones with the Galaxy S5, decided I wanted no more part of Samsung bloatware and losing the ability to rid myself of it).

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by damnyou on Friday November 03, 2017 @10:20PM (#15623489)

Chat heads are a great feature, and of course you can turn them off if you like. iOS doesn't even give you the option to do that.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by mcphage on Saturday November 04, 2017 @12:22AM (#15623769)

Chat heads are a terrible feature, and now that you told me I can turn them off I’m going to go do that immediately.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by mbo on Saturday November 04, 2017 @08:10PM (#15627492)

What's your main issue with them? Aren't they just a superior version of the "reply-in-notification" feature of iOS?

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by mcphage on Saturday November 04, 2017 @10:57PM (#15627970)

The reply-in-notifications go away after I've replied, they don't hang around and cover a portion of the screen all the time. And if I don't want to read them right away, then I've got this thing hanging around on my screen with a angry red number that I don't want to deal with.

They're intrusive, they're obnoxious, they cause performance hiccups on occasion. They're not a superior version of anything.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by raarts on Saturday November 04, 2017 @04:36AM (#15624258)

I had to google it, they look pretty distracting to me, but I'm positive that if they turn out to be very useful Apple will release an API for it.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by leadingthenet on Saturday November 04, 2017 @07:52AM (#15624630)

They haven't in years and I pray every day that it stays that way.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by Bud on Friday November 03, 2017 @09:58PM (#15623435)

The notifications you are complaining about can be easily, and completely, disabled. In a few seconds. I don't think you've used iOS 11 on a recent iPad, either.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by damnyou on Friday November 03, 2017 @10:16PM (#15623478)

Surely properly done, prioritized, aggregated notifications like on Android are better than no notifications?

I'm talking about an iPhone obviously.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by austenallred on Friday November 03, 2017 @10:14PM (#15623472)

What “office productivity” are you unable to do using iOS? Pretty sure millions of people use it just fine.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by damnyou on Friday November 03, 2017 @10:18PM (#15623481)

What happens when you receive 100+ new email notifications on iOS? I ended up ignoring all of them, missing out on important notifications.

Notification aggregation and priority is table stakes for serious office work.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by acdha on Friday November 03, 2017 @10:28PM (#15623506)

If you’re regularly getting 100+ notifications you need to setup filters, change your notification settings, or find a new job.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by damnyou on Friday November 03, 2017 @10:36PM (#15623519)

Or you know, just use an Android phone.

Apple zealots are the fucking worst. Your phone makers are too incompetent to implement notifications properly, so your solution is to find a new job.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by Aloha on Saturday November 04, 2017 @12:20AM (#15623759)

Being a former android user, I see no fundamental difference in how notification are implemented for email between the two platforms.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by damnyou on Saturday November 04, 2017 @01:03AM (#15623886)

Have you used recent versions of Android with priority and aggregation? I've found that iOS users have no idea how good notifications are on Android.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by ReverseCold on Saturday November 04, 2017 @12:12AM (#15623734)

Just curious, why are you getting 100+ emails at once that you can't filter into a low priority/no notification inbox?

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by damnyou on Saturday November 04, 2017 @12:58AM (#15623879)

The most common case is overnight with a geographically distributed team.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by acdha on Saturday November 04, 2017 @11:42AM (#15625523)

How does that many notifications help? Isn’t it enough to see a ton of email and open an email client which does all of that aggregation for you?

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by damnyou on Saturday November 04, 2017 @02:02PM (#15626147)

Of course it doesn't, but Android already does the aggregation for me so that I don't miss important notifications from other apps. It's just a better way of working.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by acdha on Saturday November 04, 2017 @05:49PM (#15627077)

Again, it’s a question of degrees: you’re talking like this is a dealbreaker but it seems like more of an edge case.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by damnyou on Saturday November 04, 2017 @06:57PM (#15627290)

I do think it, along with all the other ways iOS is deficient, is a deal breaker. I finally switched to Android after years on iPhone and I can't believe how much of an idiot I was for not switching earlier.

At least I wasn't enough of an idiot to use iMessage and get locked into the Apple ecosystem.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by arvinsim on Saturday November 04, 2017 @10:34PM (#15627900)

This runs contrary to Apple's philosophy. The user should not have to do anything.

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Re:iPhone X Teardown by lostlogin on Saturday November 04, 2017 @03:31AM (#15624147)

Phone makers or phone maker?

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