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Re:First field report of iPhone X by ddorian43 on Monday October 30, 2017 @08:36AM (#15584518)
Maybe he doesn't buy a $800 Android ? And doesn't buy every new release ? There are new $200+ Android phones.
Re:First field report of iPhone X by skc on Monday October 30, 2017 @08:42AM (#15584550)
I often wonder what people do with these super expensive phones to be honest.

I have a cheap Xiaomi phone and it runs the same apps everyone else does.

My guess is that the expensive phones are bought primarily for their cameras. I'm not big into photography but I can see how that makes a stronger argument for the likes of the iPhone X and Note 8 etc.

Re:First field report of iPhone X by whatusername on Monday October 30, 2017 @08:55AM (#15584631)
Camera for photos of the kids is certainly my self-justification. My SLR takes better photos - but all the best photos of my kids are on my phone - because it’s what I have in my pocket.
Re:First field report of iPhone X by PacketPaul on Monday October 30, 2017 @09:15AM (#15584745)
This. 20 years from now you will be happy you have the best possible pictures of the kids.
Re:First field report of iPhone X by Yetanfou on Monday October 30, 2017 @09:45AM (#15584922)
20 years from now you will be happy with the best possible pictures of the kids, true. Where 'best' is defined as 'pictures showing the children as they were, doing what they were doing where and with whom they were doing it with'. Whether those pictures were taken with, say, a Motorola Defy (5 MP sensor, takes good pictures as long as there is enough light but gets noisy in low-light situations) or a Samsung Galaxy S8 or Google Pixel (which take good pictures in most situations) is of less importance unless you are in the habit of taking pictures of your children in near-darkness.
Re:First field report of iPhone X by redbergy on Monday October 30, 2017 @08:55AM (#15584629)
Personally, I just like to use the latest technology – I live and breath it every day in my job and I like to keep up on trends. I don't go out and spend a ton of money at clubs, bars, and fancy restaurants, I go to the movies maybe once a year, I drive a sensible car. For me, hardware like the latest smartphone or computer is what I like to spend my discretional income on – simple as that. To each his/her own.
Re:First field report of iPhone X by notheguyouthink on Monday October 30, 2017 @08:53AM (#15584614)
I do nothing with my expensive phone (Pixel 1 XL atm, soon to be iPhone X). Nothing to justify the price, at least. I buy them because I enjoy the quality feeling, which is partially real and partially self enforced.

With that said though, I've been with Android since the G1 (literally all of the Nexus lines), and few cheap phones compare to the high end phones for me.

My best phone of all time? The Nexus 4.. or was it 5... I honestly can't remember now. It was one of these $200 phone. It felt cheap as hell, but it was a very nice compromise on features vs price. Yet, that's going back to what I was saying above. Despite me loving that phone, and it being an amazing phone for $200, it was still a compromise of quality. If you show me a phone that has the OS and build feel of my Pixel 1 XL, I'd happily buy it. However, I've not ever seen this. Same goes for my Macbook Pro. It's far from perfect, and definitely feels overpriced, but the OS and Hardware combo has no competition from my perspective. Unfortunately.

So back to your original question, I definitely don't do anything with the phone to inherently justify the price.

Re:First field report of iPhone X by coldtea on Monday October 30, 2017 @09:15AM (#15584752)
>I often wonder what people do with these super expensive phones to be honest.

For one, some might make so much, that it's not "super expensive" to them -- just a phone, and they buy whatever they like, whenever they like.

Second, some might use it as a status signal that they have such a phone. Which might not be as effective as a house or an expensive car, but combined with other such stuff, works wonders socially compared to not having it. This depends on your social aspirations of course (e.g. caring to play this game, climb some social ladder, for small "status" differences etc).

Others are interested in gadgets, and can save and sacrificice other stuff to have the latest phone/PC etc, even if they don't make as much money.

Others are hobbyists (or semi/pros) and use them for their camera, video, music creation, drawing, etc capabilities.

For others yet it's a fashion accessory. The buy expensive phones for the same reason they wouldn't want to be seen with old cheapo sneakers (this is similar to the "social status" thing).

Re:First field report of iPhone X by ctdonath on Monday October 30, 2017 @05:24PM (#15589030)
I, like most people, use my smartphone a LOT. It's worth at least US$1/day, and I'll use it for probably 3 years ... making a top-end iPhone X amortize out to dirt cheap. At that low low price, why not get the best UI/UX I can?

I'll spend more on coffee than I will on an "expensive" phone during the same time.

Re:First field report of iPhone X by alistairSH on Monday October 30, 2017 @08:56AM (#15584638)
I'm an iPhone user, but my primary reason for upgrading in the past was the camera. These days, the cameras are good enough, so I hung onto my 5S for an extra year or two and expect I'll keep the 7 for 3+ years as well.
Re:First field report of iPhone X by ddorian43 on Monday October 30, 2017 @08:47AM (#15584579)
Status/feel-better-inside, cameras, stupidity (dont know what they want so they get best), don't know what to do with money, some people need it for their job (marketing stuff, you HAVE to be cool) etc etc.
Re:First field report of iPhone X by coldtea on Monday October 30, 2017 @09:17AM (#15584760)
>stupidity (dont know what they want so they get best)

How is that stupid? It's not like a brain surgeon who just gets what's the best out there (or considered top) is in any way stupid because they're not a tech-geek to care to do a full "market review" on their own...

Re:First field report of iPhone X by zimpenfish on Monday October 30, 2017 @08:49AM (#15584587)
I'm buying it primarily for the camera, yeah. I'm not 100% convinced that I'll get on with Face ID and the lack of a home button, mind.
Re:First field report of iPhone X by coldtea on Monday October 30, 2017 @09:10AM (#15584719)
>Maybe he doesn't buy a $800 Android ? And doesn't buy every new release ? There are new $200+ Android phones.

If you have the money, and use your phone a lot, then why not buy a a $800 phone (Android or iOS) with every new release?

Except if not having enough money or being tight with money even if one has plenty of them, puts one in the "enlightened" category -- or is that only when it comes to mobile phone purchases?

Re:First field report of iPhone X by mercurysmessage on Monday October 30, 2017 @09:28AM (#15584820)
> why not buy a a $800 phone (Android or iOS) with every new release?

I think this is a terrible mindset, personally. There is so much waste, these are perfectly good phones but everyone is convinced to do a 2 year contract lifecycle.

Re:First field report of iPhone X by zimpenfish on Monday October 30, 2017 @10:25AM (#15585183)
Do you imagine that people who buy a new phone every year smash the old one once they've restored their backup? Or do is it more likely that they pass them on to others via sales or gifting? In which case those perfectly good phones are still perfectly good phones...
Re:First field report of iPhone X by mercurysmessage on Monday October 30, 2017 @10:36AM (#15585247)
And then what happens to the phones those people had? We don't do this with laptops, desktops, or monitors. What makes phones so special?
Re:First field report of iPhone X by zimpenfish on Monday October 30, 2017 @11:56AM (#15585981)
Actually, yeah, I do do that with laptops and desktops and monitors. My entire family uses laptops that I once owned. And I'm using a laptop (as a server) that my parents once owned. My old monitor is now my nephew's monitor. etc.etc.
Re:First field report of iPhone X by mercurysmessage on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @08:23AM (#15592665)
I am saying, do you buy the new model of the same laptop or monitor every single year?
Re:First field report of iPhone X by zimpenfish on Tuesday October 31, 2017 @11:46AM (#15594071)
Oh, ah, I see your point now. Apologies.

Not every year, no. Laptops are about every other year. Monitors are infrequent, yes.