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Re:New Zealand to ban foreigners from buying existing houses by IncRnd on Thursday October 26, 2017 @09:09PM (#15564762)
Why does that seem strange? All laws are the group imposing on the individual - what they aren't allowed to say, what they can't do, what they have to do, who they need to hire, where they can dig, when they are allowed to build, etc. None of that is far from "who isn't allowed to buy."
Re:New Zealand to ban foreigners from buying existing houses by harryh on Thursday October 26, 2017 @09:22PM (#15564833)
Ya, but most of those laws are about protecting the rights of individuals. I can't hit you because you have a right to bodily autonomy. What's being protected here?
Re:New Zealand to ban foreigners from buying existing houses by michaelmrose on Thursday October 26, 2017 @09:33PM (#15564891)
The overall well being of the society as a whole. Plenty of laws have causes as vague even if you don't realize it is so and you arguably can't build a functioning society without laws stemming from vague but significant causes.
Re:New Zealand to ban foreigners from buying existing houses by IncRnd on Thursday October 26, 2017 @09:55PM (#15565022)
What is being protected is stated in the headline and first two sentences of the article.

... new policy designed to stop soaring house prices ...

... said the new plan was designed to stop rising house prices and will apply to non-residents.

Re:New Zealand to ban foreigners from buying existing houses by harryh on Thursday October 26, 2017 @10:02PM (#15565059)
You don't have a right to buy a house at a particular price.

If someone else is willing to pay more the seller should have the opportunity to sell it to them. These laws privilege the desires of some buyers over both the desires of sellers and non-native buyers.

Re:New Zealand to ban foreigners from buying existing houses by mantas on Friday October 27, 2017 @12:27AM (#15565707)
Not every sell is equal if you look at it like at social contract. A family buying a house is different from investors looking to park their money.

It looks like ban will apply to non-residents rather than non-native. If you're non resident, why do you want to buy? Rent to check out the city, get residency which you'd need to live in a country anyway, then buy.

Re:New Zealand to ban foreigners from buying existing houses by sliverstorm on Friday October 27, 2017 @01:08AM (#15565857)
Why do non-citizen buyers deserve anything? It's their country, they don't have to let us in.
Re:New Zealand to ban foreigners from buying existing houses by IncRnd on Friday October 27, 2017 @04:29PM (#15571956)
> You don't have a right to buy a house at a particular price.

I never said that I did.

> If someone else is willing to pay more the seller should have the opportunity to sell it to them. These laws privilege the desires of some buyers over both the desires of sellers and non-native buyers.

And if the areas in question had been rezoned to increase supply instead of reducing demand, that would have privileged the desires of a different group of people.

All laws privilege a certain set of desires over other sets of desires.

Why shouldn't people who live in an area have the right to decide how they want to collectively structure their lives and economics?

Re:New Zealand to ban foreigners from buying existing houses by Frondo on Friday October 27, 2017 @01:02AM (#15565834)
Why not?

Housing is a human right, and lots of US cities have all kinds of regulations around affordable housing. I think we're not far at all from "you do have the right to buy a house at a particular price," we just dress it up in fancier language.