Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by mintplant on Thursday October 26, 2017 @06:21PM
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I switched my own "native" time format to 24 hours years ago, in my head and on all my personal devices. Now I'm able to convert between the two formats effortlessly, and doing mental math on times is easier when I don't have to mix in a bunch of modulo-12 operations.
(I live in the US.)
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by Koshkin on Thursday October 26, 2017 @06:47PM
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Interestingly, in the rest of the world people have been using both systems interchangeably for many years without giving any thought to it (after kindergarten anyway).
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by shmerl on Thursday October 26, 2017 @06:37PM
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Same thing here. I use 24 hour system anywhere I can. Converting it isn't an effort for me. But I wish everyone around would use it.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by mkempe on Thursday October 26, 2017 @07:29PM
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In Europe we use the 24-hour system to write time, but a 12-hour system to speak about it. So you're invited to dinner on Saturday at 6 (nobody in their right mind would show up at 0600). Everybody learns at an early age that 4 o'clock in the afternoon is 16, 5 is 17, etc. It's easy when there are analog clocks in all public, walkable spaces, as well as in the kitchen and/or living room.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by jvzr on Friday October 27, 2017 @03:24AM
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In French, we say "viens à 21 heures," or "come at 21 hours," quite literally. Yes, "hours" is a duration as one poster commented; and yes, also in French. But the context gives the meaning away.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by Koshkin on Thursday October 26, 2017 @06:55PM
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Well, in English, you can't say "16 o'clock", can you? You can only say "sixteen hundred hours" (which sounds terrible, if you ask me).
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by thaumasiotes on Thursday October 26, 2017 @08:10PM
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> Well, in English, you can't say "16 o'clock", can you? You can only say "sixteen hundred hours"
What's stopping you?
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by mitchty on Thursday October 26, 2017 @10:36PM
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Nothing, get enough people saying it and it will become the thing.
I'd vote for sixteen hour or something similar.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by tyingq on Friday October 27, 2017 @09:05AM
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That's how they say it in Germany...sechzehn uhr
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by mitchty on Friday October 27, 2017 @10:30AM
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Yep, thats why I'm voting for it in English too. Just use the German method and keep it simple.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by BrandoElFollito on Saturday October 28, 2017 @10:27AM
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In French : 16 hours (seize heures)
In Polish even simpler: 16-th (szesnasta)
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by emilfihlman on Friday October 27, 2017 @07:31AM
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16 o'clock sounds just fine.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by shmerl on Thursday October 26, 2017 @07:05PM
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Yeah, sixteen hundred hours sounds awful. Sixteen o-five sounds OK to me though.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by jpatokal on Thursday October 26, 2017 @08:24PM
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You can if you're George Orwell writing 1984:
“It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen."
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by rconti on Thursday October 26, 2017 @08:10PM
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how about "16 hours" or "1600"
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by tqkxzugoaupvwqr on Friday October 27, 2017 @02:32AM
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“hours” denotes a duration. Times and durations should be distinguishable to avoid ambiguity. 16 o'clock = time, 16 hours = duration.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by richardknop on Friday October 27, 2017 @06:37AM
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16 hours is shortcut for 16 hours from midnight.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by King-Aaron on Friday October 27, 2017 @04:38AM
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After working in Hospitals for many years (ICU/CCU PCA/Theatre Technician) I'm pretty much stuck on 24 hr time.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by blt on Thursday October 26, 2017 @07:00PM
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How long did it take you to switch? I've had my phone in 24-hour mode since May. I can convert without thought now, but I still think in 12-hour time internally.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by rconti on Thursday October 26, 2017 @08:13PM
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Good luck. I've been using a 24 hour clock on every single device in my control for likely 30 years now and I still think in 12 hour time. Hell, I even spent ages trying to find a 24 hour bedroom clock before I finally found one on a ham radio site. But I still have to stop myself doing 12-hour time math, do the math in 24 hour, and STILL manage to screw it up.
I don't know why, but the 12 hour clock is just so ingrained that I can't stop thinking that way. The good news is, the conversion is trivial for me, but its just strange how it never 'took' in my head.
Re:Massachusetts is considering leaving the Eastern Time Zone
by incompatible on Thursday October 26, 2017 @07:12PM
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I'd just pick the timezone that gives 12:00 closest to the local solar noon and leave it at that, year round. Calling that time of the day 12:00 is completely arbitrary, but any other number would be equally arbitrary, and 12:00 is a long-standing convention.
Also, I'd prefer a switch to 24 hour time notation. AM/PM is cumbersome.