Re:Monsanto Attacks Scientists After Studies Show Trouble fo...
by zzzeek on Thursday October 26, 2017 @05:39PM
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> In fact, aggregate commercial sales by all seed companies account for only about 40 percent of the total volume of seeds used globally in 2014 (not sure of the last seasons). Of those commercial seed sales, roughly 2/3 of the seed volume comes from private breeding programs and significantly 1/3 comes from national or public institutions.
> While Monsanto is one of the largest commercial seed companies, even in those crops their output probably accounts for less than one-third of global commercial volume.
These are very specific quantitative statements. Can you provide your sources? it seems like whatever this is from is overall very interesting to read.
Re:Monsanto Attacks Scientists After Studies Show Trouble fo...
by cisanti on Thursday October 26, 2017 @02:45PM
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You seem like a person who knows the deal. Is there illegal market for Monsanto seeds? Let's say people smuggling the product out of USA to countries that they can't go after the IP etc? Could North Korea use secretly their seeds to have better output or are those seeds so very specifically engineered?
Re:Monsanto Attacks Scientists After Studies Show Trouble fo...
by sprucely on Thursday October 26, 2017 @04:29PM
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Most commercial varieties these days are hybrids. Many of the desirable traits are fixed for the plants that grow from that "F1" generation. But if you try to plant harvested seeds from those plants ("F2" generation) you'll get inconsistent results. It's possible to isolate particular traits via selfing and selecting for those traits. It's a years-long process, but I could see that happening in countries not beholden to Monsanto or trade deals.
Re:Monsanto Attacks Scientists After Studies Show Trouble fo...
by dbcurtis on Thursday October 26, 2017 @11:29PM
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It is true for maize that you can create an unstable hybrid, which has been used as a form of IP control by corn seed companies for longer than I have been alive. That is also true for numerous other plants. As far as I know, it is not possible to create an unstable soybean hybrid, which is why Monsanto went the licensing route.
Re:Monsanto Attacks Scientists After Studies Show Trouble fo...
by sprucely on Friday October 27, 2017 @06:59PM
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My understanding of beans is that it is possible, but not commercially feasible. Something about the yield of seeds per plant versus the effort to control the crossing of parental inbred lines.
Re:Monsanto Attacks Scientists After Studies Show Trouble fo...
by cisanti on Friday October 27, 2017 @04:30AM
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What does unstable in this context exactly mean?
Re:Monsanto Attacks Scientists After Studies Show Trouble fo...
by dbcurtis on Friday October 27, 2017 @08:32AM
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If you replant the unstable seed it might not germinate, if it does is likely to be stunted and sterile.
Re:Monsanto Attacks Scientists After Studies Show Trouble fo...
by Natanael_L on Friday October 27, 2017 @06:12AM
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Chance of successful replication of the desirable traits to the offspring (seeds) of the plants
There are many more than 1,000 separate seed companies that supply the many types of commercial seeds globally, and hundreds of seed companies that sell corn and soybean seed to American farmers. In fact, aggregate commercial sales by all seed companies account for only about 40 percent of the total volume of seeds used globally in 2014 (not sure of the last seasons). Of those commercial seed sales, roughly 2/3 of the seed volume comes from private breeding programs and significantly 1/3 comes from national or public institutions.
The remaining non-commercial seed volume is seed saved and replanted by farmers. Monsanto participates in only a few crops, with the two largest being corn and soybeans. While Monsanto is one of the largest commercial seed companies, even in those crops their output probably accounts for less than one-third of global commercial volume.
Therefore, if a farmer wants to plant seed from someone other than Monsanto, it’s very easy to do that. People use Monsanto products because of the genetics/profitability not out of intimidation or fear.