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Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by matt_wulfeck on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:37PM (#15502766)
They don’t need to ask you anymore. You self-reported it to a credit agency and friends, family, potential employers can get that plus other financial information from these agencies.
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by nightski on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:45PM (#15502848)
Where are you seeing this? There is zero income information on any of my credit reports. In addition, if it was so easy to obtain how come my credit card bank still constantly begs me to update my income information?
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by michaelmrose on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @05:19PM (#15503226)
Basically if this doesn't already exist I could start a business tomorrow recommending salary offers to employers based on position and applicant.

Possible sources of salary info include

Job sites where people review and report on salary at their employer, even if anonymous its super likely that figuring out exactly who you are could be less than rocket science.

Credit reporting agencies.

Bullshit surveys where people answer questions like how much money you make.

Really smart educated guesses based on analyses of known good data from your own and similar employers/employees.

Big employers. As long as the data isn't directly shared with their fellow companies and only in fact with me they stand to benefit from me knowing how much they and their competitor pay so I can recommend the lowest salary an employee is likely to accept so they can minimize cost.

In short your employer doesn't know how much you make but I do and recommend based on that info. Further I can even perpetuate racism and sexism! If minorities and women are currently paid less I can let you know to offer less and still get applicants. If I train a computer to make that determination it can even decide such without me explicitly telling it to and we can blame the algorithm instead of me!

Go technology and go capitalism. High five!

This is of course entirely hypothetical but sufficiently trivial that I find it hard to imagine people not doing it.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by haldean on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @05:49PM (#15503519)
That would be illegal under this new law as well:

> The bill also would prohibit an employer from seeking salary history information about an applicant for employment and would require an employer, upon reasonable request, to provide the pay scale for a position to an applicant for employment.

They're not allowed to try to find out from someone else, either.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by michaelmrose on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @06:20PM (#15503752)
They don't have to find out they just have to employ someone who can do so because they aren't beholden to california. You contract out to me wanting only to know how much you should offer. I give you a number. You offer your applicant that number.

I'm not a lawyer but that doesn't seem to be illegal or even a loophole its out of scope.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by swamp40 on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:48PM (#15502882)
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by falcolas on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:52PM (#15502934)
The info is supplemental to what is considered to be a credit report, and thus does not have to appear on your pulled credit reports.

Similar to how your FICO score is not part of your credit report; it's a separate paid service that the credit unions pay for so they can charge their own customers.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by nightski on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:59PM (#15503017)
Right, but this information is easily accessible from family & friends as the parent aluded? If so can you provide a link?
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by ikiris on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @05:16PM (#15503206)
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by astura on Thursday October 19, 2017 @12:18PM (#15509231)
That data has been breached but it hasn't (and likely won't considering it was most likely a nation-state actor who was responsible) be released to the public. Even if it were it takes some sophistication to find the torrent, download it, import it into a database, and query that database. There's nothing easily accessible about it.
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by FireBeyond on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @06:22PM (#15503762)
> In addition, if it was so easy to obtain how come my credit card bank still constantly begs me to update my income information?

While they may have that information, federal laws require them to have you self-report income in regards to credit offers.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by oddlyaromatic on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:49PM (#15502909)
> In addition, if it was so easy to obtain how come my credit card bank still constantly begs me to update my income information?

I suspect this one has more to do with trying to engage you so that they may sell you more credit.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by hota_mazi on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:51PM (#15502930)
That's totally false, at least in the US.

Credit agencies measure whether you pay your debts, nothing more.

Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by matt_wulfeck on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @06:45PM (#15503944)
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by IncRnd on Thursday October 19, 2017 @06:33PM (#15512109)
That's not the credit bureau, though. Credit files do not contain salary history.
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by curun1r on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @06:01PM (#15503617)
They also know how much credit has been extended to you. Credit card companies and mortgage lenders know your income when making a decision to lend. You can probably work backwards from that info to salary within a +/- 20%.
Re:New law bans California employers from asking applicants ... by IncRnd on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @05:46PM (#15503492)
Not sure why you were downvoted. Your answer is correct.