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Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by adventured on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @08:01AM (#15441049)
Your setup premise is false. The pay increase is far beyond 20%.

1) The median household income in Denver CO is $64,000. That's around 77% higher than in Altoona PA. Two locations specifically referenced in the article.

2) The opportunities that pay a lot more than that gap, do not exist to begin with in Altoona. Software, Internet, misc engineer jobs - the locations that people are fleeing from are death zones economically. Denver and Boulder are quasi boom cities; the Altoona's are the exact opposite; that means, over the next ten years your income will very likely expand nicely in those CO locations, whereas you're very unlikely to see meaningful improvement in Altoona.

3) Lifestyle is important for most people and likely that much more so for people willing to move across the country for better opportunities. Boulder and Denver are both incredible by comparison to Altoona PA, when it comes to lifestyle upgrade.

To answer your question, the people desperately fleeing from all those dying economic zones, seeking a vastly superior future, are extremely smart indeed.

Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by kbutler on Thursday October 12, 2017 @12:09PM (#15458977)
Minitel[dead]'s comment below is worthwhile: > I left Kentucky for California in my early 20's. I've been making > 100k per year since then and living as cheaply as possible to hold on to it despite the cost of rent. Most of my friends back home make 20-30k a year.

> The tradeoff is that quality of life is terrible. The cities are full of petty bug people. And COL makes living standards precarious for all but the wealthy and the extremely poor (government programs). The precariousness also inhibits the formation of stable IRL (as opposed to chat group based) friend groups.

> That said, after half a decade of this I've saved enough money to go back home and use stocks, real estate, and side hustles to put down roots with a decent quality of life.

> Sometimes I feel like Odysseus on Ogygia. It's easy to be trapped in one of these hubs so long that you miss out on the chance to exit young-adulthood gracefully. (Very sad the number of friends I have who decided to start a family too late and couldn't quite make it work out). --- Good luck making it to where you want to be!

It's good to remember that different people have widely varying preferences of quality of life - urban/rural, ocean/mountain/plain, wet/dry, tropical/temperate/less-temperate, etc. I'm glad not everybody wants to live in the same place!

Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by bluejellybean on Thursday October 12, 2017 @12:10PM (#15458989)
Number 3 is really massive and a large reason I picked Denver over the valley. I can wake up everyday, hike a 14er for the sunrise, and be back in the city for work. If you're into mountaineering or an outdoor lifestyle, the cost of living is easily worth it.. The great thing is what you bring up though, the cost of living isn't actually that large when wages are sky-high for techies. I live 3 blocks from my office and I don't have to spend thousands a month for some shitty studio 30 minutes away.
Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by tspike on Thursday October 12, 2017 @01:49PM (#15459768)
> hike a 14er for the sunrise and be back in the city for work

Definitely not Longs. I guess you could drive to the top of Evans or Pikes Peak :)

Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by bluejellybean on Thursday October 12, 2017 @02:54PM (#15460338)
Definitely Longs! It's only an hour and a half out.. Getting back though... the traffic just gets brutal.
Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by tspike on Thursday October 12, 2017 @03:13PM (#15460483)
It's a 10+ hour climb though? I'm good with a quick jaunt up Sanitas before work haha- you're (respectfully) nuts!
Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by dsfyu404ed on Thursday October 12, 2017 @12:56PM (#15459379)
This is what people who are retirement age would have said about SV when they moved there.

Enjoy being retired in SV 2.0

Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by corpMaverick on Thursday October 12, 2017 @11:55AM (#15458876)
4) Even if you already have a job. It is easier to finde a better job or find a new one if you are ever laid off in Denver than in Altoona.
Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by minitel on Tuesday October 10, 2017 @09:30AM (#15441573)
I left Kentucky for California in my early 20's. I've been making > 100k per year since then and living as cheaply as possible to hold on to it despite the cost of rent. Most of my friends back home make 20-30k a year.

The tradeoff is that quality of life is terrible. The cities are full of petty bug people. And COL makes living standards precarious for all but the wealthy and the extremely poor (government programs). The precariousness also inhibits the formation of stable IRL (as opposed to chat group based) friend groups.

That said, after half a decade of this I've saved enough money to go back home and use stocks, real estate, and side hustles to put down roots with a decent quality of life.

Sometimes I feel like Odysseus on Ogygia. It's easy to be trapped in one of these hubs so long that you miss out on the chance to exit young-adulthood gracefully. (Very sad the number of friends I have who decided to start a family too late and couldn't quite make it work out).

Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by driverdan on Thursday October 12, 2017 @12:44PM (#15459278)
> The cities are full of petty bug people.

What does that mean?

Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by potbelly83 on Thursday October 12, 2017 @01:03PM (#15459444)
I think they mean a cross between a bug and a person. Sure wish I lived near some bug people.
Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by soared on Thursday October 12, 2017 @01:05PM (#15459454)
> The precariousness also inhibits the formation of stable IRL (as opposed to chat group based) friend groups.

Also what does this even mean?

Re:Three cities in Colorado in top ten leading destinations ... by khuey on Thursday October 12, 2017 @01:16PM (#15459534)
You make friends here and then 18 months later those friends move to Seattle/Portland/Reno/Las Vegas/Phoenix where they can actually afford to live.