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Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by SapphireSun on Sunday October 01, 2017 @01:43AM (#15376564)
Bezos will read this and think, whatever happened to Google Health? Anyways, the health care system in this country is intentionally fucked up on a policy basis. Private industry mostly extracts pounds of flesh and puts bandaids on it. We need public policy to fix it.

Also, holy shit this is a brain disease: "Congress enacted a law that bans Medicare from negotiating drug prices with the pharmaceutical industry. However, since Amazon Health would act as a private corporation dealing with other private corporations, it is hard to imagine Congress could prevent it from getting favorable prices for its patients."

Great. Instead of fixing public policy for the benefit of the public, create a monstrous new private entity that sucks blood money from the public.

Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by SapphireSun on Sunday October 01, 2017 @01:58AM (#15376616)
I also would like to point out how insane it is that the author of this piece is crying out for a Nietzschesqe superman to save the public from itself. Mutual aid and the democratic process are quite enough. Just a hint though, solving some of our problems will take some redistribution of wealth, though in the case of medicine universal health care will save an ungodly amount of money which will make things easier.
Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by closeparen on Sunday October 01, 2017 @04:44AM (#15376953)
>the democratic process

The will of the people is clear: illness ought to be ruinously expensive, health insurance ought to be a privilege for those who can afford it. The democratic process has considered the issue quite seriously, several times in recent years, and decided on the present situation. There is overwhelming bipartisan support for keeping healthcare pretty much as is, with very slight variations between red and blue.

Barring a major change in public opinion, any improvement in healthcare will have to be undemocratic.

Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by mercer on Sunday October 01, 2017 @05:36AM (#15377040)
> The will of the people is clear

I thought quite a lot of research showed that voters across the board are actually in favor of more Europe-style/better health care policies, but that they vote against their own interests because of partisan issues/politics.

If that's true, you might still be right in practice of course, but at the very least there's a bit more hope that things can change.

Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by closeparen on Sunday October 01, 2017 @05:31PM (#15379921)
>they vote against their own interests because of partisan issues/politics.

This isn't like some temporary blemish on democracy, it is democracy. People have different opinions (partisanship) about what ought to happen in the public sphere (politics) and outcomes are dictated by the people's actual votes rather than expert opinion about their best interests.

I'd be down for a technocrat philosopher-king, but that's not the world we live in. In fact, technocrats are being soundly rejected by both left and right.

Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by craftyguy on Sunday October 01, 2017 @11:26AM (#15378266)
And yet here we are..
Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by lkrubner on Sunday October 01, 2017 @04:04PM (#15379515)
In a country where a law that is only supported by 17% of the public easily gets through the House and only fails in the Senate by a single vote.
Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by mercer on Sunday October 01, 2017 @01:06PM (#15378707)
Yes?
Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by SapphireSun on Sunday October 01, 2017 @11:50AM (#15378360)
Our democracy is broken, we must fix it. Policy is made against the wishes of the great majority of people in favor of the wealthy. This has been documented time and time again.
Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by indemnity on Sunday October 01, 2017 @02:29PM (#15379120)
In New Zealand, there’s a government agency with a role to subsidise medication and decide which products to subsidise.

It is pretty successful at driving down costs.

Unsurprisingly, it was targeted in the thankfully now failed TPPA, because god forbid a government flex its muscle and keep the market competitive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmac

Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by gaius on Sunday October 01, 2017 @03:29AM (#15376808)
create a monstrous new private entity that sucks blood money from the public.

Kinda like what IBM is trying to do with Watson.

Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by flamedoge on Sunday October 01, 2017 @03:52AM (#15376853)
Why can't America have a public health care? They have public post service USPS..
Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by melling on Sunday October 01, 2017 @04:49AM (#15376961)
The Post Office usually loses money:

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/306224-us-postal-services-...

I don’t know the right answer but starting with a good system that works seems like a good idea.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland

Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by darpa_escapee on Sunday October 01, 2017 @09:49AM (#15377778)
Key point from the article in your post:

> Controllable income, which takes into account operational expenses including compensation and benefits, excludes the $5.8 billion payment mandated by the government to prefund the agency's retirement benefits. > > Excluding the obligation, the Postal Service would have recorded net income of about $200 million in 2016.

Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by Frondo on Sunday October 01, 2017 @09:16AM (#15377672)
Fine. Public transit usually loses money, too. I'm OK with all of that, because they're public goods, they're things that make life better for everyone in the city/county/region/country.

I don't expect government entities to make a profit; as long as they're run reasonably well (and they usually are), well, that's what taxes are for.

Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by gaius on Sunday October 01, 2017 @05:38AM (#15377047)
If I were building a healthcare system, I'd be looking to France/Germany for a role model
Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by thedarkproject on Sunday October 01, 2017 @10:05AM (#15377869)
Switzerland's health care systems beats those by a mile. Every expat who knows these countries can confirm this.
Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by closeparen on Sunday October 01, 2017 @04:44AM (#15376950)
Because it is a democracy, and an electoral majority of the country vehemently opposes it.
Re:An open letter to Jeff Bezos: You are needed to disrupt h... by jlgaddis on Sunday October 01, 2017 @03:55AM (#15376855)
Too many politicians receiving lobbying money.