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Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by na85 on Saturday September 30, 2017 @11:06AM (#15373158)
For 99% of folks outside the HN echo chamber, email works fine. Spam is a problem, but I've never heard or read of anyone who thinks email needs to go the way of the dodo except on this site.
Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by erikbye on Saturday September 30, 2017 @04:43PM (#15374894)
Email is the pinnacle of human communication.

Without notifications, which I, of course, do not use, email is the least intrusive and least disrupting way someone can contact me. I simply check my email when I feel like it, which is about two times daily, morning and sometime late evening.

Then, even when I look at my email, I don't have to respond. I don't have to do anything. And if there's an email I want to reply to, I won't necessarily do so right now. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe never.

The best part is the record of all communications and the fact that you have a searchable archive. Man, I wish I could search all my other conversations with people. In fact, I think I should just start recording everything, every day, all the time, and convert the audio to text.

Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by keithpeter on Sunday October 01, 2017 @05:45AM (#15377067)
"In fact, I think I should just start recording everything, every day, all the time, and convert the audio to text."

About a decade or perhaps 15 years ago in Birmingham UK, the Ikon gallery had a multi-artist exhibition of a conceptual nature. one of the artists had used a micro-cassette recorder to record every word he uttered over a week and then had the tapes transcribed by audio-typists. The results where exhibited as an impressively high stack of A4 sheets. Unfortunately, they were, apart from a few sample sheets on the wall, piled in a glass case thus preventing viewers from sampling the text. I was taking bets on the sheets that were hidden from view being blank. The artist also exhibited the micro-cassette recorder and tapes used.

Google has nothing to say about the exhibit, but it has to be said my memory is a bit short on key words.

A sibling post mentioned Ted Nelson.

Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by u801e on Saturday September 30, 2017 @10:17PM (#15376039)
> Email is the pinnacle of human communication.

For one to one or one to many types of communication, I agree. Email, in my opinion, breaks down when there's a discussion amongst multiple people. For instance, you have to make sure that everyone in the discussion addresses are added by your MUA before clicking the reply button (or using the equivalent keyboard command). The other problem is that if you need to include a new person in an existing discussion, they won't have any of the previous messages to refer to (other than what happens to be quoted in the email they receive).

Newsgroups, on the other hand, address the issues I mentioned and are just as good as email in communication IMO.

Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by gsich on Saturday September 30, 2017 @08:56PM (#15375837)
It is also the pinnacle of interoperability. Nowadays, two apps in the appstore can't send messages between each other, because reasons. With email you have compatibility between so many vendors, devices, programs, programming languages ... everything is compatible. It is THE standard.
Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by spc476 on Saturday September 30, 2017 @11:18PM (#15376175)
There's a chap by the name of Ted Nelson who's been working on that for the past 50 years. Unfortunately, the problem is a bit harder than it looks.
Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by AndyMcConachie on Saturday September 30, 2017 @01:22PM (#15373897)
I have no idea why you're downvoted. Email is great especially because it's an open standard. I don't understand why people expect Linux kernel development to adopt some kind of proprietary platform for communications. I think it's a terrible idea.
Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by digi_owl on Saturday September 30, 2017 @01:52PM (#15374069)
On that note, a while back while browsing f-droid i noticed someone working on a email based IM app.

Never mind that "text messaging" in say Japan has been email based since virtually forever, since the SMS standard had issues with Japanese script.

Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by abiox on Saturday September 30, 2017 @02:58PM (#15374447)
trashing a community doesn't often get upvotes. perhaps if you were really funny or clever about it.
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Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by abiox on Saturday September 30, 2017 @02:56PM (#15374440)
btw "echo chamber" is generally perceived as disparaging, so it's not weird people wouldn't be impressed by that. and feigning victimhood after antagonizing people is pretty gauche.
Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by na85 on Saturday September 30, 2017 @04:48PM (#15374907)
It was intended to be disparaging: one of my major beefs with this community is the massive culture of groupthink and aggressive self reinforcement/adulation.
Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by abiox on Saturday September 30, 2017 @05:57PM (#15375191)
> It was intended to be disparaging

and thus your thesis of 'HN doesn't like to be reminded' falls to the simpler explanation of 'trashtalk usually gets downvoted'.

Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by na85 on Saturday September 30, 2017 @08:20PM (#15375723)
Perhaps.

I prefer to see it as the down votes reaffirming that I am correct.

Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by gsich on Saturday September 30, 2017 @08:53PM (#15375826)
you are correct. if people get triggered by someone using the word "echo chamber" they are probably in one. It's hard to admit, I know.
Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by abiox on Sunday October 01, 2017 @11:27AM (#15378269)
what do you mean by "get triggered"? if someone downvotes trashtalk, does it necessarily mean they "got triggered"? are there other explanations?
Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by gsich on Sunday October 01, 2017 @01:42PM (#15378888)
Yes. Because it wasn't trashtalk. HN in generel seems (from what I observe) like a place that uses fancy apps for communication instead of emails. So if someone claims that HN doesn't like emails and get downvoted for that, they got triggered.
Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by kcorbitt on Saturday September 30, 2017 @03:16PM (#15374561)
Eh. If you were to measure the percentage of personal communication that users of this forum conduct over email as opposed to other mediums (Whatsapp, FB Messenger, iMessage, etc.), I bet you'd find it indexes way higher than the general population.
Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by Tharkun on Saturday September 30, 2017 @01:42PM (#15374009)
I'm having a really hard time getting my friends to email me. They want me to use awful garbage like FB Messenger or Whatsapp instead.
Re:Why kernel development still uses email (2016) by gkya on Saturday September 30, 2017 @08:04PM (#15375661)
Sometimes one needs to adapt to the outer world :) I use Whatsapp even though I hate instant messaging and phone calls (I like communicating at my own pace when not face-to-face, and I dislike any sorts of smalltalk on the phone or messaging), because communication is a two-way street, and sometimes conforming is easier. I disable last-online and blue ticks in Whatsapp so it's more e-mail like, definitely improves the experience.