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Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by NikolaeVarius on Thursday September 28, 2017 @12:57PM (#15358755)
Why would you ever live in a studio if you want to save money?
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by shimon on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:07PM (#15358863)
Just to clarify, a studio apartment is the smallest and cheapest type of apartment. It usually consists of a single room combining kitchen/living area/bedroom and a bathroom. The only cheaper way to live would be with roommates or family.
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by logfromblammo on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:52PM (#15359324)
"Studio" is American for "zero-bedroom apartment". It's an advertising-friendly euphemism, just like "garden" is American for "below ground level apartment".

An American studio apartment is essentially a hotel room with kitchenette. It has only two doors, one for the bathroom and one to the exterior. Thanks to fire codes, it will usually have at least one escapable window.

While it isn't the lowest tier of city housing, it is the smallest type of apartment with significant supply in the US. Dormitories aren't tremendously common away from university campuses, and communal barracks are uncommon outside of the older military bases--where they are generally mothballed until a particular need arises for large quantities of temporary housing.

Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by autotune on Thursday September 28, 2017 @12:59PM (#15358784)
Why would you ever live with roommates if you want to be sane and productive at work each day?
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by nkrisc on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:32PM (#15359119)
Um, what's cheaper than a studio? Anything with one or more bedrooms is going to be more expensive.

Perhaps you're not familiar with American apartment terminology or I'm missing something? A studio apartment is as cheap as you can get normally.

Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by cbr on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:49PM (#15359284)

    what's cheaper than a studio?
Splitting a several-bedroom apartment several ways.

For example, where I live [1] a studio is $1,700 but one room in a 3br is $1,100.

[1] http://www.jefftk.com/apartment_prices

Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by ulfw on Thursday September 28, 2017 @02:44PM (#15359733)
And then you have several more people living in your dwellings. Not everyone is a student anymore.
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by enraged_camel on Thursday September 28, 2017 @03:47PM (#15360142)
I'm 33, have been working professionally for 10 years and have had roommates the whole time. Different ones, too.

Unless you're strongly introverted, and/or suffer from social anxiety, having roommates is a great way to a) meet new people and b) save lots of money.

Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by cbr on Friday September 29, 2017 @07:42AM (#15364418)

    Not everyone is a student anymore.
I'm 31, married with two kids, and we have housemates. It's nice having more people around, in addition to being cheaper.

(We've lived in four places since getting married, one without housemates and the other three with. We've definitely preferred the latter.)

Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by JBlue42 on Thursday September 28, 2017 @02:02PM (#15359410)
Depends on where you live. When I looked into splitting a place here in LA, it was only $100 less than if I stayed in my studio, with less amenities. I'm lucky, as I'm rent-controlled, but even people I know that live in 4-bedroom houses in not great areas are paying only a little less.
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by cbr on Friday September 29, 2017 @07:43AM (#15364426)
It sounds like rent control isn't making this a fair comparison? We'd want to compare going out and renting a new studio vs 1/N of an Nbr.
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by JBlue42 on Friday September 29, 2017 @10:19AM (#15365467)
I see your point. I think at market rate a couple years ago, my studio would be around $1500/mo, 1 bd at $1750, and 2 bd at ~2100. So yes, there could be several hundred saved.

The "best" deal I've found in LA is when you have a partner and can split the one-bedroom with them.

Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by santaclaus on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:48PM (#15359274)
> Um, what's cheaper than a studio?

Having roommates! Rent a victorian with a few roommates in West Oakland. One train stop to San Francisco, way less than 3k a month.

Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by falsedan on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:47PM (#15359264)
Room/housemates, an N-bedroom's rent/N is always less than a 1-bedroom (for N > 1)
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by nerfhammer on Thursday September 28, 2017 @03:35PM (#15360064)
It completely depends on the supply of the particular city. SFBA has lots of split level houses that were meant for families a few generations ago and very few studios.

Many in this thread seem flabbergasted that a studio would be expensive or could ever be cheap, it's probably based on whatever market they're used to.

Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by nkrisc on Thursday September 28, 2017 @04:38PM (#15360519)
Fair points. I was thinking strictly in terms of single living but I may have misunderstood.
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by jklein11 on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:22PM (#15359019)
Because it was the cheapest viable options.
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by introvertsexist on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:07PM (#15358858)
Presumably for sanity & security & sleep. Fuck you; this attitude to rent is the worst part about the bay area. If you want to save money, please avoid the bay at all costs.
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by mikestew on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:24PM (#15359033)
Fuck you; this attitude to rent is the worst part about the bay area.

Well, that was uncalled for. I’m willing to bet a paycheck that someone named “Nikolae” lives in a place where “studio” might have a meaning different than it does in the U. S. And so they wonder why you’d live in such an expensive place if you’re trying to save, whereas in the U. S. a studio is the bottom tier of apartment inventory.

Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by Woofles on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:17PM (#15358958)
Or consider that the bay is more than SF. I recently moved to Oakland and I'm paying around $1k/mo on rent compared to $2k/mo or more living in the city while not really giving up any of the benefits of living in the area.
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by martin1975 on Thursday September 28, 2017 @01:49PM (#15359287)
How's your commute time?
Re:Three Paths in the Tech Industry: Founder, Executive, or ... by Woofles on Thursday September 28, 2017 @03:03PM (#15359859)
My commute is 30-35 minutes each way (walk to Bart, work in downtown SF). For comparison, when I lived in Lower Haight my commute time was 25 minutes each way (MUNI bus a block from my apartment to downtown).