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Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by epa on Friday September 15, 2017 @09:13PM (#15262187)
This means their EBITDA now probably shows profitability (servers they own are amortizable [the A in EBITDA], where are AWS is expensed.)

Edit: Amortization/Depreciation can <i>generally</i> be used interchangeably.

Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by btown on Friday September 15, 2017 @09:56PM (#15262361)
Actually, since the servers themselves are physical assets with a useful life, and indeed could be leased independently from the business model during that useful life, they'd be modeled as depreciation not amortization. But yes, EBITDA would be increased either way.

Realistically, the valuation multiples on EBITDA for mature SaaS businesses are different from those for datacenter operators, and someone building a financial model for Dropbox would now likely take a blend of these this into consideration. So EBITDA is by no means the end-all be-all here.

EDIT: And taxation is a different story altogether, as in either the cloud or own-hardware case, Dropbox can write off expenses or depreciation respectively.

Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by gordon_freeman on Friday September 15, 2017 @09:21PM (#15262232)
Good point. I always wonder how such accounting changes truly reflect the financial performance of the company. On one hand it's a lot of upfront cost to Dropbox with high risk too but all that won't show up completely if this cost is amortizable over the long run.
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by scirocco on Saturday September 16, 2017 @05:31AM (#15263784)
With HPE Flexible Capacity they only pay for the HW they consume. Cloud-model on premise. https://www.hpe.com/emea_europe/en/services/flexible-capacit...
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by bernardlunn on Saturday September 16, 2017 @12:03PM (#15265218)
This could have been the decision driver. It is also why investors increasingly look past ebitda to free cash flow which is harder to game.
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by lobsterloga on Friday September 15, 2017 @09:33PM (#15262280)
Maybe but OpEx is tax deductible. CapEx is not.
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by mbesto on Friday September 15, 2017 @11:37PM (#15262702)
Huh? You deduct CapEx cost over the depreciation period (server hardware is usually 3-5 years). Not sure what you mean by "CapEx is not".
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by CodeWriter23 on Friday September 15, 2017 @09:36PM (#15262294)
CapEx is deductible over the amortization period.
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by qaq on Friday September 15, 2017 @09:46PM (#15262320)
I am pretty sure if they desire they can convert CapEx into OpEx.
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by toomuchtodo on Friday September 15, 2017 @10:15PM (#15262429)
Sure, if they sell the storage system to someone and arrange a leaseback.
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by 0xbear on Friday September 15, 2017 @10:37PM (#15262523)
That's how Microsoft manages its campus real estate. :-)
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by dx034 on Saturday September 16, 2017 @07:43AM (#15264173)
Nearly every company does that. It's amazing how little many companies actually own. I've worked in offices where everything from building over furniture to even the plants was leased. The company ran with close to zero assets (services business). Pretty sure that this wouldn't make any sense if it wasn't for tax purposes.
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by qaq on Friday September 15, 2017 @10:19PM (#15262444)
and that someone can be their own subsidiary in a jurisdiction with dif. tax treatment
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by toomuchtodo on Friday September 15, 2017 @10:21PM (#15262452)
Can be within the same taxing authority. I've facilitated facility transfers and leaseback agreements in the US.

Edit: Yes, you can't seize what isn't owned.

Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by tw04 on Saturday September 16, 2017 @03:38AM (#15263445)
You also can't silently seize what is owned. Which is, generally speaking, the bigger issue.
Re:Why Dropbox decided to build its own infrastructure and n... by qaq on Friday September 15, 2017 @11:08PM (#15262624)
I would also guess you could also shield assets this way from lawsuits etc