Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by unkown-unknowns on Friday September 01, 2017 @06:40AM
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You and I might dislike ads but don't you think there's a pretty big chance that a lot of the products you are hearing about from your friends were only brought to their attention thanks to ads? So without ads your friends would not have known about the products that they do now.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by mozumder on Friday September 01, 2017 @05:56AM
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Yah your argument against adverting is bullshit.
Even consumers love ads.
Did you know that they even pay money because they want ads? Those 900 pages of Vogue that they buy every September, do you think they're filled with articles? Because they're about 870 pages of fashion ads. People specifically buy them because of the advertising.
And did you know Sunday papers are a thing, filled with coupons, that are basically ads?
Sorry, but advertising serves a purpose that consumers actually pay money for.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by jiggunjer on Friday September 01, 2017 @06:57AM
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I'd categorize: 1) making ads available in a browsable index isn't the same as 2) throwing them into people's consciousness without their explicit consent/interest.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by crummy on Friday September 01, 2017 @06:05AM
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I think people buy Vogue (and all other advertising-sodden media) despite the ads, not because of it.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by Kiro on Friday September 01, 2017 @08:01AM
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You definitely want to see the ads. It's like a catalogue.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by zimpenfish on Friday September 01, 2017 @06:17AM
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It would be an interesting experiment to put out a non-ad-subsidised version of Vogue and see how many people bought it. I would guess at "not that many".
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by LeoNatan25 on Friday September 01, 2017 @06:25AM
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If it’s “900” pages of pure content, rather than ads, hell, even I’d buy it.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by Kiro on Friday September 01, 2017 @08:02AM
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You're probably in minority though. It's like a catalogue. The "pure content" is just fluff.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by utexaspunk on Friday September 01, 2017 @08:08AM
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Even if that "content" is boilerplate drivel like "25 Ways to Drive Him Wild in Bed!"?
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by MrMid on Friday September 01, 2017 @09:43AM
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Wouldn't that be called a "book"?
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by zimpenfish on Friday September 01, 2017 @06:39AM
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It's 900 pages of pure content ... but costs $95.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by elkos on Saturday September 02, 2017 @12:50AM
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It is my understanding that a similar publication nowadays, Cosmopolitan, used to be mostly a literary publication in it's early days. I wonder how the contents vs advertising ratio was balanced at the time.
Re:Insane state of today's advertising part 3
by belorn on Friday September 01, 2017 @08:46AM
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Most things are completely different if they are voluntarily or involuntarily. Trend magazines, price comparison sites, and coupons are all examples which people want to be exposed to advertise-like content.
Scam-like advertisement that use browser exploits to track you is not one of them. None would pay for that service, which is a good indication about which from of advertisement is wanted and which isn't.
Businesses often make more rational decisions because they can assign someone to do research (like you did of your own volition) who will make comparisons and think about it.
Imagine the same process happening for shampoo. I'm sure there are some people that want "the best" shampoo, but most of the products are going to be nearly interchangeable and the marketing will try focus on various kinds of manipulation to dig that moat. These manipulations aren't what most people think of, like a sex symbol hypnotizing you. Instead they work to increase brand familiarity, social proof, and provide a life style narrative you can tell yourself and show off to other people with.
The capital hiding behind these campaigns funds newspapers, television, radio, and civic centers. It acts as a filter on the public discourse. If you're interested, look up Manufacturing Consent for more information.
Here's a clip from a documentary based on the book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTBWfkE7BXU