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Re:Android Oreo by davidcbc on Monday August 21, 2017 @04:49PM (#15067751)
That's a pretty unreasonable desire. Technology changes so much in 10 years that it wouldn't be feasible to support a generation of phones for that long.

10 years ago was the original iPhone. How much of a money sink would it have been for Apple to support the original iPhone until now?

Re:Android Oreo by taeric on Monday August 21, 2017 @04:59PM (#15067816)
10 is almost certainly high. However, the rate of innovation does seem to have slowed down. To the point that all of my other devices from 5 years ago still act like new. My phone? Meh.

What will really kill this is lack of user servicable batteries.

Re:Android Oreo by smnrchrds on Monday August 21, 2017 @08:20PM (#15068836)
I agree. I am very happy with my Nexus 5 and I intend using it until the hardware gives up.
Re:Android Oreo by drusepth on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @09:54AM (#15072368)
For context, 5 years ago people were still using the iPhone 4S, as the iPhone 5 wouldn't be announced for another 2 months.
Re:Android Oreo by int_19h on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @04:51AM (#15070677)
And yet, most PCs built 10 years ago can still run most modern software that is written for modern PCs.
Re:Android Oreo by digi_owl on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @07:50AM (#15071454)
Demonstrating how much Microsoft bends over to maintain backwards compatibility. Something that for all their other flaws they should be applauded for.
Re:Android Oreo by int_19h on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @09:55PM (#15077937)
You mean the APIs. But I wasn't talking about those, but rather the hardware - the only thing that you need there is ABI (or at least API) stability for drivers. So you can pull the same thing off with Linux, as well. Basically, modern desktop OSes can run on decade-old hardware, although they will have reduced functionality due to some missing features.
Re:Android Oreo by pjmlp on Wednesday August 23, 2017 @03:23AM (#15079305)
Which is why the sales have dropped more than 30% over the last couple of years.

Obviously, OEMs don't want this trend to continue.

Re:Android Oreo by kuschku on Monday August 21, 2017 @10:13PM (#15069223)
Okay, let's say 5 years. I'm still using my first generation Nexus 7, and it's still working fine.
Re:Android Oreo by fulafel on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @12:19AM (#15069665)
There's no rocket science in maintenance support (eg security patches) for 10 years. That's the only thing that is necessary to keep the device usable.
Re:Android Oreo by Buge on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @01:13AM (#15069884)
All the apps on the app store will be written assuming more powerful devices with newer API versions.
Re:Android Oreo by on_and_off on Monday August 21, 2017 @06:06PM (#15068204)
That's not really comparable.. the ecosystem is mature now.

But sure I am going far with 10 years.. and phones would need serviceable batteries to last that long.

Re:Android Oreo by chipperyman573 on Monday August 21, 2017 @06:34PM (#15068325)
What ecosystem becomes mature after just 10 years? A hard drive 10 years after the first one was invented in 1956 looked like this[0]. Is that mature? Phones are mature compared to 10 years ago, but whatever they evolve to in the next 10 will dwarf them.

[0]: http://images.computerhistory.org/storageengine/1966_Ferrite...

Re:Android Oreo by Dylan16807 on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @01:22AM (#15069917)
The smartphone was invented long before the iPhone. This is 10 years after it went mainstream.

And in ten years that iPhone has not changed much, except that the CPU/GPU rapidly caught up to current standards. The only other dealbreaker toward using it today is 3G support, and that's a 9 year old feature. If the iPhone 3G had the same relative performance to 2008 desktops as the current iPhone has to 2017 desktops, it would probably still be viable.

Maybe 10 years is a bit too high, but we're talking about high end phones here. I'd be surprised if the actual hardware wasn't acceptable 7 years down the line.