tons of people, regularly, over the last few years. this guy was very active and his sub has been in service for the better half of a decade.

So he was apparently a nice normal guy, with no signs of madness?

Oh no, he was very clearly mad. Just not the sort of madness that gave the slightest indication that he'd deliberately cause harm to anyone (accidentally causing harm by talking people into things, on the other hand...).

ahahah, sorry, that was an unexpected response.

So maybe that's what happened? He talked the journalist into something and later saw that she had died because of that, probably also causing harm to the submarine?, then panic'ed and told lies to the police.

I met him at a conference where he talked. Very charismatic person with a strong passion for his projects. Very friendly and openminded about ideas from anybody, but obviously also eccentric.

I would definitely have gone on a tour of that submarine with him.

Madsen, not madness.

Many people including other journalists before her. I honestly don't think anyone before this incident would think it involves any danger at all. A subway dive with a well educated, white middle aged man who is regularly in the media is not your typical crime scene.

> not your typical crime scene.

Not a scene of crimes typically investigated, prosecuted, etc. We'll never really know what crimes would get on the books if the criminal justice system decided (against their better judgement) to go after the powerful as hard as they go after the weak.

While this is not the best of posts, I do think some of the responses deserve better than to be buried with it.

I gave it an up vote in order to unbury the rest of the discussion.

Why I've had 4 downvotes here?

Because it is the dumbest example of victim blaming seen in a long time here?

Why dumb?

You're linking "mental illness" to "violence", and saying there's a strong link.

There isn't. Mental illness is only a very weak predictor of violence.

Would you please stop posting unsubstantive comments?

Hey, I was called "dumb" like that and everything is ok, but asking why my question was dumb is discouraged like that? I was asking it sincerely.