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Re:Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby La... by k_lander on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:13AM (#15063637)
Why is ECC sought after on the desktop?
Re:Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby La... by bitL on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:24AM (#15063698)
Some people run >32GB RAM with long uptime and there the chance of a random bit-flip might not be acceptable. Imagine working on some Deep Learning model, training it for 30 consecutive days and then hitting a memory bug during computation.
Re:Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby La... by Synaesthesia on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:36AM (#15063772)
Not your everyday requirement, also ML is somewhat tolerant to small faults like that.
Re:Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby La... by bitL on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:41AM (#15063788)
Depends. If a bit is flipped in a dataset you are likely fine, if in code your computation might crash. If you use enterprise-grade software like ZFS filesystem that keeps a lot in memory, it's much better to have ECC and accept a bit slower memory access for a bit better protection.
Re:Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby La... by OoooooooO on Monday August 21, 2017 @09:17AM (#15064298)
ZFS without ECC is pretty useless ...
Re:Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby La... by michaelmrose on Monday August 21, 2017 @02:12PM (#15066425)
ZFS is no more vulnerable to corruption when running without ECC than any other file system.

The developers of zfs suggest ECC because ECC is a worthwhile thing for those who care about their data.

You should stop spreading misinformation.

Re:Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby La... by Retr0spectrum on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:24AM (#15063701)
Rowhammer protection, for one thing.
Re:Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby La... by onli on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:38AM (#15063778)
ECC does not protect against Rowhammer attacks.
Re:Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby La... by Retr0spectrum on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:45AM (#15063817)
It seems you are correct, but surely it must make a practical attack much harder?
Re:Intel Launches 8th Generation CPUs, Starting with Kaby La... by onli on Monday August 21, 2017 @08:08AM (#15063928)
I'm not so sure. But it's not an area I know much about. But practically thinking: If you try to change the memory content of an area, that means you have software running on the target machine. Does it matter much then whether you need more time because of ECC?