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Re:Is the open office layout dead? by MichaelMoser123 on Monday August 21, 2017 @12:21AM (#15061897)
> It's simply horrible how expensive it would be to give private offices even to >3 people in our company

How do you quantify the loss in productivity and quality that could be associated with a noisy work environment?

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by jsmeaton on Monday August 21, 2017 @12:39AM (#15061971)
Opex vs capex
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by nickcox on Monday August 21, 2017 @08:20AM (#15063993)
Isn't this opex vs opex though? Most companies don't actually own their office space.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by gaius on Monday August 21, 2017 @03:36AM (#15062636)
So much corporate nonsense makes perfect sense once you are aware of this
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by throwanem on Monday August 21, 2017 @04:52AM (#15062954)
Well, it doesn't make sense. But you know why it happens.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by hota_mazi on Monday August 21, 2017 @12:40AM (#15061975)
It's quantified, along with the gains from ease of access to everyone and the increased communications and social geling of everyone.

Individual offices are simply not worth it, financially, culturally and physically.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by drunkenmonkey on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:02AM (#15063585)
This is a hot air balloon which is about to burst culturally.

Don't fight the transition to closed-offices too hard, or you'll be remembered for advocating to make engineers' lives difficult.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by mattmanser on Monday August 21, 2017 @06:16AM (#15063380)
The entire article, and all the studies, flatly contradict you.
Re:Is the open office layout dead? by hota_mazi on Monday August 21, 2017 @12:27PM (#15065697)
The entire article offers as much evidence for their claims as I do: none.

Have you visited the offices at Google? Yahoo? Facebook? Tesla? Square? Twitter?

They are all bursting at the seams and are fighting on a daily basis with each other to find new space to expand, which is very hard to find here. Same for pretty much all the companies in the Bay Area, actually.

The mere idea of switching these companies from an open floor plan to individual offices will get you laughed at for proposing something completely nonsensical.

Open floor plans are here to stay.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by mattmanser on Tuesday August 22, 2017 @07:21AM (#15071316)
I don't understand why you are lying? Your first sentence is an outright lie.

The article links studies, you do not.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by coldtea on Monday August 21, 2017 @03:08AM (#15062522)
Really? Who did the quantification? Citation needed.

Probably you missed the "increasing body of research" mentioned in TFA then...

"According to a study on the cost of interrupted work, a typical office worker is interrupted every 11 minutes. Even worse, people often take up to 25 minutes to refocus on the original task."

"Researchers have found that the loss of productivity due to noise distraction doubles in open office layouts compared to private offices, and open office noise reduces the ability to recall information, and even to do basic arithmetic."

"In a 2013 study about the privacy-communication trade-off in open offices, 60% of cubicle workers and half of all employees in partitionless offices said the lack of sound privacy was a significant problem."

" A study on the association between sick days and open office plans found that people working in open offices took 62% more sick days than those in private offices. And remember all those interruptions that workers experience in open offices? In a survey in the International Journal of Stress Management, employees who were frequently interrupted reported 9% higher rates of exhaustion."

"Clearly, open office layouts aren’t the hotbeds of creativity designers originally hoped they would be. And with office space at a premium, private offices for everyone isn’t a realistic alternative, nor is it ideal. The ebb and flow of effective collaboration requires several types of spaces. As workplace experts outlined in the Harvard Business Review, employees tend to generate ideas and process information alone or in pairs, then come together in a larger group to build on those ideas, and then disperse again to take the next steps."

https://hbr.org/2013/11/research-cubicles-are-the-absolute-w...

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272494413...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21528171

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-biggest-office-interruption...

https://hbr.org/2014/10/balancing-we-and-me-the-best-collabo...

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by tome on Monday August 21, 2017 @04:08AM (#15062769)
> "According to a study on the cost of interrupted work, a typical office worker is interrupted every 11 minutes. Even worse, people often take up to 25 minutes to refocus on the original task."

So they're interrupted more frequently that the time it takes to refocus and therefore never complete any task?

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by coldtea on Monday August 21, 2017 @07:58AM (#15063880)
>So they're interrupted more frequently that the time it takes to refocus and therefore never complete any task?

No, they just never complete any task while FOCUSED.

They still complete tasks, but distracted, and thus in a sub-par and slower way.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by majewsky on Monday August 21, 2017 @05:00AM (#15062998)
Sounds about right to me. /s

More seriously though, that "every 11 minutes" figure is most likely an average, so there will be intervals much longer than that.

Re:Is the open office layout dead? by salvar on Monday August 21, 2017 @04:53AM (#15062964)
Did you miss the word 'often' in there?