Whoa, personal attacks will get you banned here, so please don't post like this again.

Sorry, the post wasn't at all intended to be a personal attack. All I'm saying is that someone willing to immediately call something out as "shit" when it comes from a less experienced dev on their team likely comes from someone with a toxic attitude or someone in a bad working environment. Most of us stand on the shoulders of giants and would have never got anywhere if our mentors were downright rude or mean to us.

I didn’t mean to be taken quite so literally.

That said I’ve witnessed plenty of cringeworthy moments watching members of the MIT community deal with guest speakers during Q&A.

I agree with both of you.

In corporate environments that I've experienced, the otherwise very argumentative developers would never actually challenge Employee No. 9610 in their basic skills. There's a formal distance in every interaction, pros and cons.

But in the few startup environments (<15 people) the culture was much closer, and there's no way that they would not have been 'caught' very early on, probably even in the first interview.

In larger environments this is exactly what process exists for.

Even the nicest manager and teammates in the world don't have to proactively call someone out on being incompetent if every sprint their tickets are going unfinished, etc. And with the tooling, it's an automatic paper trail.